what art said, Kef's get the midrange right no exception and work out from there that said the 104/2 had the 'British' sound much like the B&W 801 of the time without the bass. thiels of that era were too bright/etched for my taste but I can't listen to martin logans either. so if your system is all analog and you need speakers that will wake up the room Thiel all the way otherwise roll with kef.