Just wondering...


Sorry about the poor choice for the title but I just couldn’t compress my question into only a few words. I’ve been watching A’gon to find a good deal for a decent DAC in the $1K price range to improve my CD listening experience. As I look through the listings, I see DACs priced in tens of thousands - saw a Boulder 2020 with retail price of $32K listed for $15K. Probably an awesome bargain for somebody. To some degree I can understand speakers selling for crazy prices partly justified by their sound as well as their "furniture" value. I’m also sure a $20K pair of speakers will still sound incredible ten years from now. I can even sort of get amplifiers being a little crazy in price but they seem to last forever, at least technology-wise. I’m still loving my 35 year old McIntosh amp but can’t imagine using the same DAC even three or five years from now. What am I missing? Can a $32K DAC sound that different from a $1K DAC?

kalali

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Price is not a factor in sound obviously.  But depending on any component, there can be significant differences in sonic quality.  To some degree this can be a really big improvement.  Someone mentioned something about profit, yeah make something and sell it and then tell me how much profit you think you will make!  I make DHT DAC & preamps, the parts alone in my DAC are $3K not including the chassis, shipping box, etc.  As mb1audio02 says, " $32K DAC sound that different from a $1K DAC?"  Yes.  So how will my DAC compete 5 years from now?  Good question.  My answer would be I can upgrade my DAC if/when the technology changes.  Second, you'd only find a few DACs that can sound like what I produce, and probably no body has heard a DHT DAC or a DHT preamp.  It is hard to design and build a product and then make a profit.  Every website for each manufacturer says theirs is the best for what ever reason.  You can find a bunch of opinions on all of the audio websites from people about what product is the best and what makes a difference in a system.  You have to try for yourself.  Most people do not have the experience to know what the differences are or what to look for to improve the sound in their system.  And cost also plays a big factor.  I don't have any tricks with my products, just listen and buy if you decide that is what you want.  I can make any component to a price point.  I can also advise you what on what changes or upgrades will get you to the next level.  Most manufacturers don't have the time to do something like that.


randy-11 if you aren't doing blind listening tests you are the rightful prey of the snake oil salesmen

Randy-11, if you have to do a blind listening test with one of my products, and you don't hear a difference within 30 seconds, then don't buy any of my products. 

Also if a $1000 sounds as good as a $30K DAC then don't buy the $30K DAC.  You have to take a look inside at the design to see what's really going on.  Circuit board with the same old chip set?  Or a design that is something special.  Custom wound transformers, power supplies, point-to-point wiring, copper chassis, cap selection, resistor selection, you need to get to understand how a product works and how it can make a sonic improvement.  Once you understand that, you can find products that will make an improvement in your system.

Happy Listening.  

 

czarivey
$26k monoblocks sounds more reasonable than $32k DAC, but still too much.

Not if you have a crap source going into the $26K mono blocks.  The DAC can be one of the most influencial component in your system.  What if the DAC gave you a huge soundstage with space and air around vocals and instruments, had a tone you never heard before where each instrument was capture perfectly, 3D sound, macro/micro dynamic swings with ease, tone, tone and more tone to die for, etc., something you never heard before, would that be worth the cost?

Happy Listening. 
What is the source????   The Lamms won't do anything that they are not fed.  What's the preamp the BAT with the 6H30 tube?  Look at the speakers, can they reproduce what the Lamm amps can deliver?  Just plopping in a high priced component does not necessarily make a system sound better.  What is the reviewer trying to say with his article?  I don't get what he expected to hear.  If I had a pair of PC speakers with the Lamm amps, what would I expect to hear a life like performance?  Come on!  What's a big boy amp?  Are there big boy speakers?  Musically with a flea-watt amp - WHAT???

The Lamms didn't bring out every tiny nuance—a surprise, as I expect amps costing this much to do everything perfectly—but boy, are they musical! In that way, they deviate from the stereotype of a big-boy amp: You expect such things to sound impressive and precise, but if you want musicality, aren't you supposed to turn to some flea-watt amp, maybe made in some Japanese boutique?