JLTI can any one comment on this?

Dear pedrillo: I understand.
Btw, +++++ " . If I have an idea of what tt I will evolve to then that may help me decide which phono preamp ...." +++++

In absolute terms the Phonolinepreamp is a choice that don't depend on the kind of TT, the choice is totally independent. As a fact the Phonolinepreamp is an independent choice ( other that the gain/impedance:MC/MM cartridge ) from the TT/tonearm/cartridge combination.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Rauliruegas, I don't mean to waste goner's times by asking what may appear to be repeated questions. What I am trying to do is figure out where am I going to be in terms of equipment. If I have an idea of what tt I will evolve to then that may help me decide which phono preamp should work best, and tonearm and cartridge. I am new to this and maybe I am taking the wrong approach, but I do know that I want to reach the higher level of performance with the system I chose to buy, that is of course within my financial means. I apologize if it appears as though I abused this forum that wasn't my intention. And I want to thank all the goners for their help and I hope that you guys and girls understend my quest, I got the bug all over again ever since getting the vpi.

Dear pedrillo: who are you? what is on your mind? Do you know what you want? what do you want?

I'm follow your seven ( last week ) threads and I can't understand what you are looking for, let me explain it:

in two of your threads you are asking for advise on TT because you want to build it, but in other thread you say that you will up-grade your VPI to HR_X status. ????????

in other thread you are asking for balanced phonopreamps ( like a priority ) and named some like the AESTHTIX, that you say is a balanced design but this statement is not true because any of the Aesthtix models are true balanced.

in other thread and in this one you are asking for the K&K and JLTI that are not true balanced.

in other thread you are asking for the best ones but you can't afford it.

Through all those threads many experienced people like: Gregm, Darkmoebius, Herman, Marakanetz, Dan_ed, Goatwuss, 4yanx, 213cobra, Thomasheisig, Ctm_cra, etc, etc, already use their time to gave you an advise about and you are still posting more threads on the same subject.

Can you understand what you want? can you understand the experience people advise?
Of course that you are in right to post any thread you want/need, no question about.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Once again, many, many thanks - this really helps put the superb performance of the JLTI into persepective.

I and three audiophile friends listened to a Brinkmann Balance turntable with Graham Phantom tonearm and Shelter 90X cartridge, through an Airtight ATC-2 preamp, Airtight ATM-2 amp, and Avalon Opus Ceramique speakers. The phono stages included the ASR Basis Executive, the E.A.R. 88PB, the E.A.R. 324, the Art Audio Vinyl-1, the Whest, the Eastern Electric MiniMax, the Vacuum State JLTI, and the Korora. By doing A/B comparisons, we arrived at a consensus about the relative ranking of the phono stages. We tried two different phono cables with each phono stage, choosing the better sounding one for the listening tests.

Based on our listening in this system using only one LP, the JLTI was better than the Art Audio, the Whest, the Minimax and the Korora. The ASR, the two EAR units and the JLTI were different sounding. However, they were all in the same sonic category, quality-wise.

Many thanks for the information - I really appreciate your taking the time to post your experiences. I am also very interested in this phono stage. Could you possibly elaborate on the other phono stages used in the shoot out. I realize this eventually comes down to personal taste and system matching, but I'm still curious as to what other stages the JLTI compared favourably too. Thanks in advance for the information.

Vacuum State has two locations - Australia/Joe Rasmussen and Switzerland/Allen Wright. The JLTI was originally manufactured in Australia by Joe. The first units (which is what I have) had point to point wiring. Later Australian units were on a circuit board. Production was then switched to Switzerland. The simple cosmetics of the Australian unit were replaced by the more elegant Swiss cosmetics. The external power supply was also added as an option.

I have compared my unit to a circuit board Australian unit. To my ears, and the owner of the circuit board unit, my unit sounded better. I have not heard one of the Swiss units. Jay at Audio Revelations has heard both my unit and the current Swiss made units, though not at the same time.

With regard to the external power supply, I have not heard the current Swiss unit. I know that Jay at Audio Revelations has done comparisons on the Swiss unit with and without the external power supply. He told me that with the external power supply you gain some things and lose others. Depending on your preferences you may or may not prefer the external power supply.

Jay has done more listening to the JLTI than anyone I know. Give him a call and he can give you the details.

However, with or without the external power supply, it is the concensus opinion of our extended listening group that the JLTI in any of its three forms (AU p-to-p, AU cb, or swiss) is a tremendous sounding unit that performs far above its price point.

I was under the impression, perhaps incorrectly, that the line Jay carries is made in Switzerland and not Australia. I have heard there are some differences between the two. Can you clarify this? Also, can you expand on the power supply comment. I'm curious about this phono stage so any additional information would be appreciated.

I have a JLTI from the first Australian production run. My JLTI was part of a phono stage shoot-out at Audio Revelations which is why Audio Revelations now carries the product. I have also lent my unit to friends for them to compare to other phono stages in their own systems. The consensus is that the JLTI is an overachiever. It holds its own with phono stages costing $4,000 or more. It is transparent, dynamic, with good bass slam. Like most solid state units it can not match the three dimensionality that tube phono stages have. But at $1,695 it is amazing. Talk to Jay at Audio Revelations about the outboard power supply. You may not want it as there are trade-offs.