Jazz guys: Bebop, Hard Bop etc.


I've been seriously into Jazz since I seriously became interested in high end gear (about 4 years). I listen primarily to jazz and primarily to Miles, Monk, Coltrane, and Rollins. I have many of the classic discs by these guys as well as some discs by Hank Mobley, Joe Henderson, Herbie Hancock, Gene Ammons, and Wayne Shorter. I have discs by Clifford Jordan, Andrew Hill, Dexter Gordon and Eric Dolphy. I think of these guys primarily as hard bop players. I also now that their playing spanned the genres of bebop, hard bop, and post bop. But as a jazz novice, I wonder, do the jazz classics by these artists generally fall into the hard bop genre or a combination of these other genres? Thanks for your insights.
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Gdoodle: I happen to be listening to Mingus as I type this, and I have almost all of John Scofield's discography in my collection. He happens to be my favorite guitarist. I did not post all the jazz I enjoy listening to. I don't have any Ornette Coleman yet. I haven't heard much of his work and not been grabbed by what I have heard. No need to cringe Gdoodle, I'm not trying to pigeonhole these artists- I'm trying to understand these genres and how one differentiates them. I greatly enjoy what I hear; I'd like to be able to tell the differences as I move hear these genres. Re-reading my post, I think I did a poor job of communicating that. It would be slighting their art to try to pigeonhole them. That is definitely not it for me.
Qdrone; I'm not a fan of the vibes although I have several discs where they are played (Milt Jackson among others). Bianci27, yes, I already have some Cannonball and Dexter Gordon. Rhljazz, I never listened to Grant Green, or Nat Adderly, but love Donald Byrd's work with the Blackbirds in the 70's. I will check out some of the earlier work of Donald Byrd.
Thanks Davemitchell: I recently purchased Blue Trane on SACD. As usual for Trane, it's incredible. From your breakdown, as I thought, my collection which is primarily Miles, Coltrane, Rollins and the other greats I mentioned, from the time frame of mid to late 50's. I seem to lean more towards Hard Bop as my Jazz preference.
Interesting Aldavis. I have Miles "Walkin","Kind of Blue" (seems like everyone has it),and "Miles Smiles", which is my favorite Miles disc. On the other hand, my wife has "Birth of the Cool", which repersents "cooljazz," but I'm not a fan of cool jazz, even though "Birth" is considered one of Miles' seminal recordings. The recording has always sounded like ancient jazz to me; slow and plodding, kinda of "Big Bandish." To coin an old 50's and 60's term "square."
Guys, thanks for the responses. I really don't have anyone to discuss jazz with since my uncle and I live in different cities now. If you don't have these, I highly recommend, 2 box sets, "Miles Davis, Seven Steps, The Complete Columbia Recordings, 1963-1964," and "Miles Davis and John Coltrane,The Complete Columbia Recordings." Also a simply outstanding value on Amazon.com is "The Great Thelonius Monk" 3CD Set, they were selling this a while back for only $8 plus shipping. Now I see they've upped the price to $19.99.

Aldavis, I have Miles' "Round Bout Midnight," "Steamin," and thought I had "Walkin" but I was mistaken. I've listened briefly to the others you mention from that time frame, I'll have to check them out again. Knownothing,
Knownothing, I have Blakey's "Moanin" and can also recommend, his "Caravan," which I got as a JVC 20bit k2, which are usually high quality re-masters. I have many of the Blue Note RVG recordings, including "the Sidewinder," by Lee Morgan. My only problem with some of the Blue Note RVG discs is the recording/Re-mastering quality, but many are still "must-haves" for any real Jazz enthusiast.