Jazz guys: Bebop, Hard Bop etc.


I've been seriously into Jazz since I seriously became interested in high end gear (about 4 years). I listen primarily to jazz and primarily to Miles, Monk, Coltrane, and Rollins. I have many of the classic discs by these guys as well as some discs by Hank Mobley, Joe Henderson, Herbie Hancock, Gene Ammons, and Wayne Shorter. I have discs by Clifford Jordan, Andrew Hill, Dexter Gordon and Eric Dolphy. I think of these guys primarily as hard bop players. I also now that their playing spanned the genres of bebop, hard bop, and post bop. But as a jazz novice, I wonder, do the jazz classics by these artists generally fall into the hard bop genre or a combination of these other genres? Thanks for your insights.
foster_9

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Be bop developed first in the 1940's. It's signature was fast tempo, bass line a run of quater notes 123412341234 etc., drums keep the beat with the ride cymbal, horns usually repeat the "head" a couple of times often in unison, the melody is then not emphasised but rather harmonic interactions and rapid changes. Hard bop begining in the early 50's had more varied playing by the rythm section and introduced elements of the blues and even funk into it. Cool jazz fused bop with swing and brought more melodic elements back into it. Post bop late 50's and 60's began the march towards free form jazz. Most of the people you mentioned played to one degree or another all of these styles. - Jim
You can definately define styles without simply listing artists. There are several good books on understanding jazz styles. In fact listing artists is not really very useful. Miles for example began in bop, helped create cool jazz (birth of cool), recorded one of the first real hard bop ( walkin) albums, had the most significant contribution to modal jazz (kind of blue), mastered post bop ( miles smiles), and led the vangaurd of fusion. The very best place to start in my opinion is to read 'Louis Armstrongs New Orleans' which came out recently. For anyone interested in the genesis of American popular music , styles ,influences ,and a whos who from Jelly Roll Morton to Robert Johnson read the book. It helped me see why the blues ran so deep in Armstong ,Bird,and Young but not Dizzy or Hawk . Just my opinions as always. - Jim
Foster 9, I understand what you are saying about Birth of cool. Remember it was quite early. Check out the ballads on "workin", "steamin","cookin", "relaxin", and "round about midnight". Terrific small group sessions with strong cool overtones. Some of the very best jazz period. Also ,as an example, though not a "cool" recording listen to Dexter Gordons "Doin Alright" track one "I was doin alright" and hear the obvious 'swing'. This reintroduction of swing is a cool element in an otherwise hot performance. It is amazing. - Jim