Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
Schubert, pathetic isn't it? I guess that is what is meant by "jury of one's peers".
The Frogman:
Both of your links (Pictures & McCoy), led to the same place, the YouTube homepage.

Cheers

Frogman, you want it you got it; Kenny Garret, "Beyond The Wall". This is my favorite tune.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvDeRaNkSQ

Enjoy the music.
One man's opinions:

-"Old lion with the young pups!". Josh Evans. Good young players. Frank Lacy? Ouch!

-Freddie Hubbard "Skydive". Nice clip. Never heard anything by Freddie that wasn't at least good. Great playing, but with a little of a "tenth stop on the tour" vibe. Kenny Garret is definitely someone deserving more attention on this thread.

-Oliver Nelson "Screaming The Blues". Love Oliver Nelson. His composing/arranging is so good that his playing didn't always get the recognition it deserves. The choice of Dolphy is not only "courageous" but smart; the way a great arranger is smart, capitalizing on the contrast of styles. Nelson's playing is soulful but always orderly and disciplined; Dolphy's is abstract and upredictable. Good stuff!

-McFerrin. I like McFerrin. Amazing talent, but I like his solo efforts best.

-Sister Dee Dee. Great singing; great tune. She sounds amazing singing the tune. But, singers are always walking in dangerous territory when they scat. Few do it well and she does it better than most; and, there is always an element of excitement or the simple reason that the singer is being courageous doing it. However, for me, and to paraphrase a very poignant moment in a trial scene from a movie that I saw recently: "Now, close your eyes and imagine that she is a horn player?". Personally, I don't think it would hold up.

-Abbie Lincoln. Love her and her unique style. Great stuff. Thanks for the clips!

-Clark Terry "Quicksand". Smoking! Love his style of trumpet playing. Light touch and immediately recognizable articulation and sense swing. Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson (not credited) sounds great.

"Diddling". Jazz players always say that playing a slow tempo is THE test of wether the guy can play or not. Terry plays just the trumpet mouthpiece at the beginning; gotta love it.

****I listen to Tyner, I hear Coltrane, even when Coltrane is not there****

Interesting comment and very appropriate. Both Tyner and especially Trane were key figures in the development of the pentatonic harmonic style of improvisation which defined much of the direction that jazz took in the '60's. This style uses as a building block for improvisation the first, second, third and fifth notes of any scale or tonality and is responsible in great part for the "angular" sound of much of the improvisation from that era to the present. I love it in Trane's playing, but as much as I love McCoy's playing I find that style somewhat tiresome in piano playing; I think because, with piano, the somewhat formulaic sound of this style is not offset by the flexibility of tone possible with a horn. You may find this interesting:

https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=M66jmp4F8I8
Frogman, I was called for jury duty in Cook County once, the DA struck me off because I had an advanced degree in history.
****I also Have Pictures played on piano by Evgeny Kissin. Didn't think I would like it, but I love it.****

I am sure you know the piece was composed for piano and then orchestratrated by, among others, Ravel. As O-10 often points out, it's hard to beat the original; although, it has been pointed out and speculated that Mussorgsky always intended to orchestrate it and just never got around to it. Kissin's is great. Also try this one by Horowitz; he was born in Kiev after all:

https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jXfJAup8W9w
Today's Playlist:
My most recent Purchase of Dexter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N7J6Y6k4EE

Not my favorite cut, but the best SQ on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXtYuziSlUc

I like some of this. It could have been wonderful, ended up just good. It is still growing on me. Great Cover Photo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M3y1WdAv6U

Cheers
*****Maybe it was the suit and tie.*****

Maybe they didn't want a hung Jury. :)

Cheerrs
Pictures: Lackluster is the word I would have used had this been an European or American Orchestra. In this case I think they played up to their ability. They are just not ready for prime time. I would have thought not ready for The BBC Proms, but I think their mission is to encourage and give exposure to classical groups like this. Even their body language was strange.

I have several Pictures. The Great Gate of Kiev was one of the first Classical pieces I grew to love.

I have Cleveland/Szell, Chicago/Solti and Chicago/Reiner. Because of these, I knew the Proms thingy was wrong.

I also Have Pictures played on piano by Evgeny Kissin. Didn't think I would like it, but I love it.

Cheers
Well, I was looking forward to doing my civic duty; but, they don't want me. Maybe it was the suit and tie.

Have some thoughts about McCoy for later.
(Still waiting). Cannonball Adderly Sextet Live In Switzerland:

Unbelievable! Without a doubt one of the best things a have heard in a while. The group was so "in the zone" that night that's its almost scary. Listened to "Jessica's Birthday" three times in a row. The groove is amazing and all the horn players were on that night. Biggest surprise for me was Yusef Lateef who hasn't always killed me; swinging his ass off, and what a great tenor sound! This one goes in the archives. Thanks for the clip!
Sitting here waiting to see if I will have to serve on a jury. What better use of this time than to catch up on some of the submissions?

****It's that time of year once again. There is something just not right with this performance. Not sure what.****

Well, you're right something is definitely wrong with this "Pictures". Many details that could be discussed; but, in short, a lackluster third-rate performance of this staple of the orchestral rep. Interesting that all that is wrong with this performance is represented in and can be heard in the opening trumpet solo. This iconic melody should be played with confidence and a declamatory feeling; while not necessarily loudly, but with clear forward movement. This young player plays way too politely and not nearly inside the beat enough (no groove). The first three notes of the melody are quarter notes, the fourth and fifth are eight notes and twice as fast. Notice how he rushes through the eight notes. Then, at :31 he is late on the downbeat. Overall, not an example of good orchestral playing; to say the least. Check out Gergiev and the Kirov.
O-10:
I didn't realize that China Moses is Dee Dee's daughter. No wonder she is so good. Great clip.

Cheers
O-10:

*****which he stood between and pulled down the alley behind us, while crying "rags and old iron".******

"Pulled" the wagon??? You must have lived way out in the sticks. In my more upscale area, rags and old iron guys "pushed" the wagons!!

I think I am going to like China Moses. She also has a clip with Dee Dee. Nice voice and presence.

Cheers

"Rags And Old Iron": When I was like 5, an old man with a cart that rode on two wobbly squeaking wagon wheels, had two long poles attached to it, which he stood between and pulled down the alley behind us, while crying "rags and old iron".

When I was like 20, the first love of my life went to the altar with someone else, and I cried, while singing "Rags And Old Iron".

Enjoy the music.
Jimmy Smith -- COOL BLUES
So long, it could have been titled "a weekend in tunisia"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWV1O76MkQ

Clark Terry -- YES, THE BLUES
Another great from the OP's neck of the woods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDeukctvjqk

so slow, it makes you wanna scream. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK6bkcIne10

Cheers

Acman, no you didn't misinterpret, my statements are contradictory; but when speaking of things that are in shades of gray, as opposed to black and white, that happens; now I'll try to clarify.

It seems the negative aspect of "new jazz" is it's conformity to some preconceived notion of what jazz is, or is not; that gives it a "uniformity" I don't like; but even that seems to apply primarily to "American jazz". Musicians from other countries do their thing, and allow us to define it any way we choose.

Since our taste in music is quite similar, our differences are the result of communication limitations. Like you said, it would all be clarified over a beer.

Enjoy the music.
Apologies O-10, if I misinterpreted your 8/2 post. Sometimes the Internet is hard to get, at least for me.

Your latter post regarding a certain sameness to new music, got me to thinking. In some ways I agree and others I disagree. I will try to sort out my thoughts and respond in the next few days. It would be much easier to discuss over a beer, but I will try.

Rok, I thoroughly enjoyed all your vocal submissions, and I'm still a ladies man, just don't tell my wife; she'll have a hard time trying to stop laughing.

Keep em coming, you're making my day.

Enjoy the music.

Acman, your last post seemed to imply we had some differences in regard to music. That caused me to go through your musical submissions and find where we differed. After I went through them, the only thing I could find is the fact that I don't like a lot of short clipped phrases, although Miles seemed to like them. If we differ, could you submit a musical example?

Enjoy the music.

Ackman, all of these people are new to me, but I like them all; no, I don't have a problem with new music or new people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EumHcn1rJZM

Enjoy the music.

I am so happy that my assumption that I had everything worth having by Oliver Nelson and Horace Silver was wrong.

Ackman, here's some new music that appeals to me; Jesse Cook, cooks on several different continents at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWjgyFvZ2OA

Enjoy the music.
I can only hope that Sister Dee Dee is received by this thread, with more approval than the Sisters Bey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gSpatsBDdk

Cheers
*****when an under endowed gentleman went to a house of ill repute in "Nawlins", he was asked "Who you gonna please with that little thang?", and he responded with great gusto "Me!"*****

You just can't tell anyone, ANYTHING in confidence any more!!!! At least you didn't use my name. I can be thankful for that!

Cheers
O-10:

Horace Silver -- JAZZ HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR

Got this one at the same time as the Nelson CD. One of his last. Entirely different sidemen, but you know it's Silver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEIom6UZI6s

Cheers
O-10:
Oliver Nelson -- SCREAMIN' THE BLUES
One of my more recent acquisitions. Nelson plays Tenor and Alto, and had the courage to include Eric Dolphy in the group, who plays Alto and Bass Clarinet.
Great CD. No weak tracks.

[irl]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX3I8KHfLtc[/irl]

Cheers.

Ackman, when an under endowed gentleman went to a house of ill repute in "Nawlins", he was asked "Who you gonna please with that little thang?", and he responded with great gusto "Me!", and so it is with music.

As I see it, the biggest problem with current music of almost all genres are the similarities in each genre; it's too much alike; meaning the last current jazz record sounds like the one before, and that goes for rock as well; I can hardly tell one rock record from another, and I won't even mention "Rap".

Enjoy the music.

Rok, you got it, Bobby McFerrin clicked on real nicely, he's all over the place; as a matter of fact he just popped up on my play list from the "Round Midnight" soundtrack.

That's a real nice piece by Freddy Hubbard, and Kenny Garret shines on flute, he's gotten very creative lately. Mark Templeton is new to me, is he still active? Who's the bass player?

Now that you got those mark up tags straightened out, I'll be looking for more good music like this.

Enjoy the music.
Our OP is a genuis. Thanks. I wonder what happened to my former way which was sooooooooo simple.

Cheers
I think my computer has changed. I'll keep working it on it. When I click and paste to email to myself, it is sent as a clickable link. Just not on Audiogon.
Acman3:

I never added the markup thing before. I just copied and pasted, and once I sent the youtube, the address appeared as a clickable link. appeared as " www.youtube "

I don't know why it stopped. I think it has to do with the link itself. When I send the 'Gaithers' links it works just fine.

Thanks
Rok, You were adding the link till around 7/30 so you probably are just forgetting to click on "markup tags" below the posting box before posting links.

Rok, click on where it says "mark up tags" just below the response box for instructions. On the third line is where you go for music, you do this before and after the address. Although it wont show on the submission, we'll be able to just click it on.