Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
If I could, I would change the cathedral for a good jazz club....in fact, I am quite sure that we have too much cathedrals and not enough jazz clubs... 
schubert, regarding the massive blaze at Notre Dame Cathedral, besides Voltaire who would probably yelled "Écrasez l’infâme", majority was shocked by the scene of devastation. 850 - year - old Cathedral.

Talking about the history, did you know that the structure of the cathedral in Alex’s town - the Cathedral of Saint Domnius, built AD 295 – 305 (!) as the Mausoleum of Roman emperor Diocletian is the second oldest structure used by any Christian Cathedral in the world? Mausoleum became a Cathedral in the 7th century. And the Cathedral is still in use!

What a heritage...
pjw, maybe people liked her precisely because she wasn’t a trained singer. She seemed shy and introvert, with the quite simple and honest tone in voice, what hit the center. I never underestimate such effect. Not to forget the great musicians by her side. Wonderful story.
mary jo why not give it a try? Astrud Gilberto never sang professionally until the group Stan Getz had assembled in Brazil had to wait a couple days for the professional singer to show up and he asked band member Joao Gilberto to have his wife sing so they could practice while waiting for the professional singer. Stan liked her voice and she went on to sing one of the greatest jazz songs ever in popularity and in sales:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDA


p.s. I must say that I was recently offered to sing on a jazz composition (!) by one, Segovia would say, REAL composer. Can you believe that? Of course, I can't accept it since I have no idea how to do it, it takes years of practice, but it feels good just to get the offer like that. 

More from Helen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cnn_gosCqg
All nice postings and one imho extraordinary from pjw, thank you, you made my day with that. Jelena Ana Milcetic (Helen Merrill)’s parents are indeed from Croatia. But she was born in NYC.

I have been reading about her and can’t help noticing that she was underrated singer since I stumble on some names all the time but not that often on hers. It’s a quite pity if you ask me, mildly would be to say that I like her singing, her soothing, breathy and husky vocal.

She was quite popular in Japan and was called there “the Sigh of New York.” She traveled and performed abroad a lot; Germany, Brazil, Italy, Japan, what probably made her less popular in USA...

She was at first into folk music but she said later that jazz called out to her: “Because it sounded honest to me, and it seemed like a place I could enter with my strange conception of music.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIWzT6cmqA
A little laid back but I enjoyed these Eric Gale tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D4ckrFVzzQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHnYaXFRy50

I read somewhere that Gale was mainly a hired hand as a session guitarist. His sessions as a leader unfortunately lean toward the "smooth jazz" genre which I do not like. Of course those sessions were produced by CTI - Creed Taylor who even made a Wes Montgomery session sound like "elevator music"
I’d say Doris had a good voice , not great but she could sell anything . Ain’t easy to sell a a hundred million records

I chose Day’s " I love Paris" because the video was out standing .
Miss Merrill and Clifford Brown had me in a trance in that last song so I had to snap out of it with these two masterpieces. Both feature legendary drummers. A young Billy Cobham with the Horace Silver Quintet and Shelly Manne leading his band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjmWI-d6d4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEr4YRNK6jM


Schubert Doris Day had a beautiful voice for sure. Here in one of my favorite fem jazz vocalists. Her parents immigrated here from Croatia which is alex and mary jo's neck of the woods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2YKTmGHBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAHE8LIbyzo
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16xMI29TPk

A reach out from the bottom of my heart to the "City of Lights" for the horrific event of yesterday .
https://youtu.be/9Od4TJYxjgk

The first few seconds are shot from the roof of Notre Dame, gargoyle and all . And numerous times  after at all angles .
No one loves jazz more than the French .
Dieu benisse la France  .


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Monster is perhaps a better title anyway .I don’t worry mary jo , gave it up for Lent years ago .
I don’t take the Bible literally, but the most used phrase in it" be not afraid"struck me as a good idea.
That love trane is nice .

P.S . Greed is the daughter of fear .Don't tell anyone , fear gets angry and her boss raises hell .


It’s all right schubert, don’t worry, I understand your point. I am glad you like the song.

I’ll take a look on your Money Masters video, pjw.
Few hours ago, when I first saw your link, I have misread the title and saw it as Money "Monsters". I have just become aware of it.


As one of the 3-4 major drives of humans it is impossible to be a miniscule impact . I know all that stuff in your post and it is so .Here we speak of music . Sex , drugs and rock and roll was a salute to rock not a insult .
5% of the worlds population doing 25% of the worlds drugs makes their task easier .
The markets rely solely on greed which is not a human instinct and weakens compassion for others which is . At its best music is  anti-dotal , at its worst flame for the fire .












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The process of enslaving financially 98% of the population of the United States and other major world economies has been going on for over a century and has absolutely nothing to do with music. One must remember there was a time back in the 30’s when jazz was considered the "devils music." Then it was Rock and Roll. Now its rap/hip hop. There are far more important reasons why the world is in the state that it is. Music has a miniscule impact. If you have the time watch the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RrRjof5Ds&t=5s

I know its nearly 3 hours so instead why don’t you all take a minute and read my review of the James Carter concert - a jazz music aficionado topic which is what this thread is for and give me your thoughts on it like mary jo - thanks mary jo. If you don't care to comment then post some music links! 
mary jo,
I did not say rock was the main factor , I said it was a factor .
But as music is instinctive in humans it becomes a sine qua non factor .Which is the only reason I talk about it .When it first came out , I thought all the Southern Baptist preachers saying what would happen were nuts .

                             To my dismay they were spot-on ..
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schubert, I do not think that this is contest either. We just talk. I think that your opinion on this matter has no valid foundation and that the terrible consequences that the world is facing now in most fields of life quality, have much deeper cause of the one you are aiming on. It’s just way too simple to claim that rock mostly did it. And you know what they say; everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts...



While I have been listening to it for only a week or two
I absolutely love:
"For Centennial Reasons 100 Year Salute to Nat King Cole"
John Pizzarelli Trio
This should be on everyone's must have list.
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I look at what happened and is happening, and think that the music is a snapshot of the culture that it is coming from. The decline in music shows the decline in culture, much like our current leaders reflect the ethics of the current population.
There are absolutes or near absolutes in this world believe it or not mary jo , you want one in music try Bach . He said God defined him

Bringing out a one in ten million outlier is useless .

The point of my post is I am aware that you are unaware . Its not a smarts contest . I've just been around longer .
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pjw, I am glad you had a good time and sorry for one glass of whiskey only. Very interesting and funny article though…


“Rock melted the glue and the only thing left was a hyper-patriotism that became nationalism and militarism which had given endless war and a debt that will destroy us.”

I must say that I wasn’t ever of the fact that rock was one of the factors that indirectly have led the nation into the destructive waters of war, into world’s massive exploration, human degradation and disgrace what eventually ruined (and will ruin for more) all of us. Until now. Somebody should have warned Marx.

Back to destructive late rock. Woodstock /3 Days of Peace & Music. Make love not war. But I guess I’ll have to change that image now and imagine that the symbolic flower in that pretty woman’s hair in the Age of Aquarius is a disguised explosive device. Made to kill.

*danger*

*we all have been warned*

:-)) 

Sorry, I just had to...



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mary jo Andres Segovia was a brilliant classical guitarist and he is entitled to his opinion. That does not make it the opinion of others and Paco De Lucia was certainly not making "noise" IMHO.....
alex your response to Mary jo was pretty deep. Everyone is different and likes different music. All genres of music have great songs and duds, depending on who the listener is.


acman3 I had nothing to recover from I was driving so therefore had just one glass of Jameson Irish Whiskey...

JC was fantastic as always. Sometimes he gets carried away with the Jimi Hendrix like pyrotechnics improvised solo's but he always mixes in a ballad or two and the set is usually variations of jazz standards. Last night he did a jazz version of the Bill Wither's song "Use Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZldnP0lhHA

James used his tenor as the vocals and it was a little more up - tempo then the Wither's original. He played a beautiful song on the flute and also played soprano and baritone on a few tunes. Set lasted from 8:30 - 9:45.

He held a long note on soprano to end a song and my table was right up front so I could see him using "circular breathing" to stretch that note out to a 2 minute fade.


He talks often to the crowd and really loves to please everybody in attendance. I sat at the bar with him afterwards and we chatted a bit and took some photo's.


I think the general dislike among some jazz aficionados is due to the fact that he is a virtuoso on alto, tenor, soprano, and baritone. Also his solo improvisations are frowned on by some as "showing off" Its funny because John Coltrane used to do 20 plus minute long solos live and some of them like on the "One Up One Down - Live At The Half Note" were highly pyrotechnic and, of course, since it was Coltrane it was not showing off but artistic brilliance.....


Read the following:
https://harderbop.blogspot.com/2011/04/james-carter-ruined-my-life.html


It is all, as always, matter of perspective (speaking about rock genre)
Is it a music? Is it a 'good music' ? 
I guess that largly depends on what somebody describes as 'music'...
Of course, there is no crime in liking something that perhaps lack certain quality.

What is the relation between music and ethics? “Can music have a positive or negative role in our disposition toward, or performance of, right and wrong acts, duties, virtues? Can it make a difference to us morally? Can musical experience make us better off or worse off from a moral point of view?”  “[I]n what sense is music ‘moral’? Does music have an influence on character? Is there a connection between one’s aesthetic preferences and one’s capacity for moral virtue?”

A song for you, Mary V.Halen...
https://youtu.be/U4D0vmVdrOg

Wish you fun, pjw. Tell us how it was.

*schubert/"Andre, who could never be called small minded, said "I’ve done my best to be open-minded about rock but there is nothing there, pure garbage."

The statement is the absolute nonsense, even if it comes from the four time Oscar winning composer. Rock is just a different music genre, that’s all. I don’t listen rock that often anymore but can’t ignore the significant mark in the history which this band for instance, among many others, has left: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et3SdIOchRw

This is pop mixed with rock. Is this garbage too? I guess that one man’s trash is another man’s treasure....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muzyOd4Lh8

;-)

*Absolutely great video on Segovia, pjw.

By building up the classical repertoire for a guitar, Segovia empowered guitar as a “serious” instrument; richer in technique, in repertoire and more appreciated in the public.

I have read quite lot’s of stories about Segovia. Can’t tell if all of them are true but they surely describe him as an extraordinary man. At one point in this video he said that he had to rescue the guitar twice; from the noisy hands of flamenco players and from a repertoire which was not a repertoire by guitarist composers – with the exception for Sor and Giuliani.

In one interview he said that Tarrega (Recuerdos de la Alhambra, Capricho árabe) was not a big composer; and that other composers were not very musical. He said that he had began asking the REAL composers – symphonic composers – to help him in creating the repertoire for the guitar.

Noisy flamenco players. Real composers. Tarrega being not a big composer. Segovia really had an “attitude”.

Segovia: “I love the flamenco, but the TRUE flamenco — not the flamenco heard these days. The flamenco guitarist of today has removed his attention from the ideals of yesterday, when this noble art was prized for a depth of emotion which could be produced by a certain simplicity of approach. Today’s guitarists are more theatrical, they want to show their technique, to dazzle the public with pyrotechnics…”

(Segovia on Flamenco Guitar, Song and Dance – from Guitar Review, 1977)

He did not specially like virtuoso Paco de Lucia either, whose influence on flamenco guitar has often been compared with his influence on classical guitar and he once called him a player with “clever fingers” and good look only (I am slightly paraphrasing here).

Paco de Lucia/Concierto de Aranjuez-Adagio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9RS4biqyAc

Who knows which performance of Concierto de Aranjuez would suit Segovia more? The one of John Williams, of Pepe Romero or..?

Rodrigo originally dedicated the Aranjuez to Segovia, but when Segovia received the score he declared it unplayable in some parts and suggested changes which Rodrigo did not want to accept. So Rodrigo dedicated it to Sainz de la Maza instead, who performed it with huge success. Later Segovia has spoken highly of the piece but never performed it. I wonder why.




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Schubert I'm happy you enjoyed the Stitt - Eldridge link. One more James Carter link for the road. I'm out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qasXXzsDpPk
On my way into NYC for the James Carter Organ Trio at Birdland!


A younger Carter playing the flute. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYcCkl6M7y8

Did I mention he plays the Alto, Tenor, Soprano, and Baritone as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SHhcpbWvIU

I know I keep posting Carter clips (I'm the only one on this forum who does) but I'm a huge fan and will keep on posting. tonight will be my 6th time seeing him live!


 
acman3 great Konitz links. I already ordered the Carnegie Hall recording with Kenny Clarke, Red Garland, Oscar Pettiford, et al. Also ordered the one with Miles Davis and others - EZZ - THETIC.
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Beautiful 81563 , sure is that old time religion .

I don’t think you could make a bad recording behind that Roy Eldridge beat , a Jazz giant !!