Jazz for aficionados

@pjw81563...Ah if it were only that easy. While all guitarists "can" play acoustic, that doesn't mean guitarists, even professionals, play both electric and acoustic guitar at the same level. This doesn't mean a player can't excel at both. But, ask most guitar players who are being honest and they will tell you they are principally devoted to one or the other. It is a relatively short list of players who have mastered both. Even in the jazz world. I've been playing the guitar for 40 years--I wish I could pick up an electric guitar and do exactly what I do on an acoustic guitar and have similar results. Alas, pick attack translates differently--finger picking translates differently--note resonation is different, dealing with ghost notes (if you want them and if you don't), etc. 

I believe all guitarists can play acoustic. Just play the same way they normally do with an electric guitar and amp with an acoustic guitar and no amp

Here is one example of a top echelon guitarist playin "unplugged"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPkQn5nDTZs

Thanks 81563 , I looked at the Pass clip again and say him plug in the bottom .So, I'll just say I think Pass is a better player .
Is there a top-notch jazz guitarist that does play acoustic ?

Schubert that is a hollow body electric guitar Pass is playing. Just as Wes was playing a hollow body electric guitar in the previous links. I'm sure both could also play "unplugged" (acoustic) just as well.

Here is a great version of Stardust featuring Helen Humes on vocals and the very underrated Don Byas on Tenor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DKoex9hCFk

Schubert I enjoy listening to Joe Pass just as much as I do Wes and many of the to numerous to name great jazz guitarists.

Joe Pass plugged in 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kUJa1PueM

81563, you can bet your last dime that average rocker would think him a boring player .
Great as Wes is , I prefer Joe Pass and his acoustic sound myself., Which means nothing ,
Ac, that flute player is off the chart, fabulous !

Wes again. All I can say is "Sublime"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U

Oh, and read the comments on YouTube...…  

I can't stop now. Wes Montgomery showing the difference between a "good" guitar player and a "great" guitar player. Unlike Grant Green of whom I love, Wes plays rythm as well as lead (Grant does not like rythm). Some "no names" in the rythm section but they are great also.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVgONy8kMY

Late night with Stan Getz and John Coltrane. Two very different tones on the tenor. They referred  to Stan's tone as "The Sound" and John Coltrane was quoted as saying everyone would sound like Stan Getz if they could.

A great quote from what many consider the "god" of the sax as the Trane shows much respect for Stan. 

Then there is the rythm section of Oscar Peterson, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb. A great ending to my Easter Sunday!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCGdmrP8Xc

Anyone else find this on the Monkish side ?https://youtu.be/MmBrep
A master of tempo and the space between notes .
His personal style of  melody and polyphony .

nsp, a beautiful album that I’m lucky to have .
Alexander just plays which I enjoy .



The last guy is Estonian , every musician in Estonia seems under the spell of Arvo Part , an Estonian semi-mystic
Classical composer and devout Orthodox Christian who might well have sold more recordings in last few decades
than any classical composer alive .
I would imagine some jazz lovers might like some of his stuff .https://youtu.be/z8ZScAdV8qE
Monk fans would be my first guess .

schubertGreat Stan very spiritual. I feel this one also:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Stiuqr577U

schubertLiked the Joey Alexander cut you posted. I am a sucker for Bass Clarinet  in a jazz setting. Potter doesn't play Bass Clarinet much on his recordings would like to hear more from him.Found this bass clarinet video I like not sure how to classify it probably "world music"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAlavG6IxVg

Happy Holiday all!!!
pjwEnjoyed the Eric Gale tunes you posted. My friend always bragged about him but I never liked his "S
Don't know if you have the 2 discs S Manne cut with B Evans on Verve records but those dates both players are in excellent form  and meshed well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcThyAzpag  

Ain’t this a B....word , had to go to a Danish festival to see a German Trumpeter  do  a real-deal version
of one my very favorites of the Great AMERICAN Song Book .US players from the greatest to the least tend to butcher it .
https://youtu.be/akp2CrjfRUI
Bet Satch was smiling that day .

Fitting for this day .

https://youtu.be/4S46peBSmUY

And I can hear Stan the Man doing this on Good Friday . A mighty tone even for him!
https://youtu.be/jSkqfm73HxQ

Thanks  guys , may the love of God be with all .
81563, I'll be on Amazon looking for " Salt and Pepper " right after this .

Happy Easter all!

Schubert I have a really cool disc with Hank Jones called Salt and Pepper. Its a Sonny Stitt led session but you can hear how good Hank is as an accompanist. Also the first few tracks feature Paul Gonsalves on Tenor and Sonny on Alto. Hank sounds great when he gets a solo.

Happy Easter, all!

nsp. love that En Passant .
Manne was one of first jazz records I ever bought .Unbeknown to me , I liked "locked" groups .My motto is if its good just keep on keeping straight ahead .
Thanks for that beautiful soprano 81563 . one hears it so seldom . Every time I hear Hank Jones I remember how dumb I am not having
any of his stuff . I’m lucky Jazz station in Mpls . plays him a bit .
Harrylavo , I tried to listen to SuperBass but my Sennheisers blew up half -way through !













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Finally went to see “Amazing Grace” tonight.  Amazing!  Loved everything about it.  Aretha was a force of nature; incredible artist.  Highly recommended.  

harrylavo thanks for the recommendations!

nsp I have about a dozen Shelly Manne discs including "Checkmate"

Great song selection.

One of my favorite albums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atDGNDZ9_kI

mary jo aside from jazz I read military history books. The partisans and "bandits" as they were also called drew many reprisals for their activities in the Balkans and around the city of Trieste. The infamous Odilo Globočnik took charge of the Balkans area in 1943 and he and his men were ruthless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odilo_Globočnik

Here are a couple of offbeat but in my opinion great jazz discs, made of of unusual duo's.

*  The first, which from a search of threads appears not to have appeared here yet is a SACD/CD called "Superbass 2".  It is a sequel to any earlier 2006 release entitled "Superbass".  It is a trio consisting of three bassists - Ray Brown, Christian McBride, and John Clayton.  On two tracks they are aided by a bit, but just a bit, of percussion.  The album covers standards and some really neat originals, which cover the gamut from ballads to swinging tour-de'forces.  Sound boring?  It's not .... try it.  Telarc SACD 63483.

*  The second is an album featuring saxophonist Houston Person and bassist Ron Carter.  They have played together off and on for years, and cover everything from standards to a couple of originals.  As much as Superbass swings, these two are modern cool .... but extremely musical.  Houston is a superb solist and Ron Carter an accomplished bassist, and they clearly are on the same musical wavelinks.  HighNote HCD 7315,

If you want a break from the usual, give these two a whirl!

Those were the Thornhill gang . The music is their ego .

Danny Polo getting after it , he could swing your house down or play your baby a lullaby !https://youtu.be/XM1xmxeEBvI?list=RDXM1xmxeEBvI
Danny comes in late , as usual with his band but ................



Easy Danny starts  but ...............https://youtu.be/SWZZXbJ4RQ8

Great clips.  Thanks!  That “Night And Day” is simply amazing.  And I can understand the appreciation of Sullivan given what I know about your appreciation of Bennett.  The common thread, as I hear it, is the sense of a kind of humility in the singing....the music is always greater than the performer’s ego.  The playing of the musicians accompanying is fantastic.  

Claude Thornhill was writing and playing music in the 30's and 40's that would be hip today .This song , "Snowflakes " was written and arranged in 1940  by him and him alone .
 He had things like a 6 clarinet choir, Danny Polo was lead and fabulous .

https://youtu.be/VnKNiKmFpo8

The Jazz singer I was in love with as a kid . Still am . Thanks jetter.
https://youtu.be/l-nBNodBgcw


Her with the GREAT Claude Thornhill band ! The"high road " is a soldiers soul returning to Scotland .
Both my grandmothers were from Glasgow .   Was sacred in our house as my maternal grandmothers father took that road as a piper in the Black Watch in 1915 .
https://youtu.be/8_cCkKz4dsc

Schubert, thanks for the link, very nice.

Update, thanks for the link that was above and disappeared as soon as I posted this, not sure why.

Updated update, thanks for the link that was above and disappeared as soon as I posted this, and for new link that is now below.

If I did that post it was to show how bad not how good .
I hope who ever is Pres when Tony passes ensures all flags go half -mast .
Crow has a good voice , listening to it dawned on me that she was singing the song , but Tony was living it ! An Artist’s Artist !
On the Duo’s I have the only other artist that was on Tony’s level was Aretha.
And over 90 , a miracle .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq57pw67ttw schubert
This ones for you! Not only is Tony's vocal great but this is an old song I  play on piano occasionally. I had to laugh at the poster's comment that this was a union of the two greatest jazz singers alive. 
At least he was accurate regarding Tony. 

I like this duet better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxHK7c4fek





















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pjw
Nice old broadcast with S Manne & his group.  The 1st song after the group is introduced "The King Swings" is from a soundtrack for an old tv show " Checkmate" . Don't know if you have the album it's on contemporary records I suggest you check it out. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSVmRLlAY2E

pjw
thanks for the posts on Helen Merrill. Did not know her ethnic background.I have been a fan of hers for quite a while . I think she has a very expressive voice. Was surprised others know of her as she was not as popular/did not have exposure of other singers back then.
Especially like the Stan Getz tune with her can never get enough of his playing!!

Thanks mary jo .
Actually I did know all that stuff but at my advanced age need to conserve the little energy I have .Almost every country has a lot of blood on its hands , many with more than Croatia .

The actual definition of Fascism is simply a form of government where you can’t tell where the corporations end and the government begins .Mussolini, its father, said it was better called Corporatism but as
the word itself derived from the signs of power  in   Ancient Rome, it had more mass appeal .
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Concentration Camps etc are optional .

p.s. "No mary jo. I did not not.
I’ve never been to Croatia and only time It came up in my History studies was about the Ustashe. Interesting though."

Man, can’t believe it. Since this what schubert is saying sounds quite defeating to any normal Croatian citizen, I just have to write something on that subject although this will not change anything and this thread is certainly not a place for politics. It is not that I am too surprised with the way the World sees us, it is just that I was hoping for at least wider side of the picture.

I will be as short as possible.

Facts:

Croatia is former republic of former SOCIALIST federation Yugoslavia.

Yugoslavia consisted of 6 Republics: Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.

When the World War II started, military operations in Yugoslavia began with the RESISTANT movement which is considered to be Europe’s most effective anti-Axis resistance movement during World War II (!)

The movement was consistently referred to as the "PARTISANS" throughout the war.

In Partisans were people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, CROATIA, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.

"By the middle of 1943 partisan resistance to the Germans and their allies had grown from the dimensions of a mere nuisance to those of a major factor in the general situation. In many parts of occupied Europe the enemy was suffering losses at the hands of partisans that he could ill afford. Nowhere were these losses heavier than in Yugoslavia."

—Basil Davidson (British historian)

At the SAME time, during WW II, on the territory of Yugoslavia were also (in MINORITY but did existed) Serbian Chetniks and Croatian fasicsts Ustashe who both were domestic traitors cooperating with the Nazi Germany.

So as you can see, there were Partisans, Chetniks and Ustashe. The first were fighting against the fascists, the second and the third were cooperating with them. My ancestors belonged to the first ones.

Unfortunately, today must admit that our country is ashamed of her role in the history of anti-fascism and prefer to identify itself more with fascism. Why is that so, that is a complex story to be told somewhere else, not on this thread.

I apologize for bothering you with this subject but after schubert’s line I just had to.

You see, Schubert, thats exactly what I am talking about....you would not need to read about those guys (its an ugly stuff) if there were more (any, in fact) jazz clubs...

No mary jo. I did not not .
I've never been to Crotia and only time It came up in my History studies was about the Ustashe .Interesting though .