Jazz for aficionados

This album is different from all the albums I have by Horace Silver. What do you think about it?


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTy8kM3Hak

This is a post from an old subject, from another thread, but it gut my attention, I believe it deserves the second look.
If anybody of you guys have 3 mil usd to spend, this might be a good way to contribute with some legacy for future generations

Speaking about music collections...

https://vimeo.com/1546186

***** rok, Buy yourself a notebook .*****

Why, whatever for?

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Btw, I didn't mean she had to have the score in front of her, she has it in her head.   But rest assured it was in front of her once upon a time.
And,
her job is not to show what the composer thought, but HER sense of what he thought.   And everyone has a different sense.   Otherwise we would only need one player.

And Jazz musicians and Classical players, apples and oranges.  You only have to listen to the several attempts by classical players to play Jazz on recordings.   And these are Jazz standards.   Written down.

Wynton being a brilliant exception.

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pjw, I like “Red Clay”. I have always had mixed feelings about most (not all) CTI recordings. Red Clay is one that I like a lot ....with some relatively minor reservations. You asked for my take:

It stays closer to the vibe of the classic hard bop recordings with just a kind of “peek” into the over produced, not quite straight-ahead Jazz, not quite Funk, not quite Soul vibe of some other CTI’s. Something that gives them, for me, a somewhat “lite” character.
Freddie sounds great. One of my reservations, and one of the reasons that I like early Freddie so much is that while he was by then (Red Clay) a much more fully formed stylist, at the same time he was starting to show something that has often been a little annoying for me me from that point forward in his career. Lots of Freddieisms on that record. Little pet licks and trumpetistic (?) inflections that he would use in just about every solo; a signature sound, but comes across as a little cliched at times. And, a kind of relentless quality; always on fire. Some would would say I’m nitpicking, but I usually enjoy pre-CTI Freddie best. Lastly, Joe Henderson sounds amazing as always, but he shouldn’t be playing the flute; doesn’t sound very good. And, even though he can do no wrong in my book, Herbie is not entirely convincing playing organ.

Today's Listen:

Cedar Walton  --  COMPOSER
with/Roy Hargrove, Christian McBride, Vincent Herring, Ralph Moore, Victor Lewis

Notes:  Primarily celebrates Walton as player and composer.  He played with Blakey and wrote the tunes, 'Mosaic' and 'Ugetsu', both titles of Blakey albums.  Speaks of his dignity, humble demeanor and the respect he commands in the world of Jazz.

Sounds like he was a serious musician.

All tunes by Cedar Walton.  Notes by Christian McBride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO1iJuefI2M  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw_ff_eHYL4  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpbPsipV04  

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Julia Fisher rarely uses a score , I have seen her live three times and she did not on those occasions . I see none on the You Tube clips either .
Ditto for most "jet-set" violinists .
What I hear from Hubbard is the way he almost seamlessly drifts into a rhythm, you have to concentrate to hear the micro- second it takes. Fisher does it seamlessly, a function than can be done on the violin, and which she does better than anyone else .
What makes her as great as she is she serves the music she plays every single second .
A jazz player, to a significant degree, shows you what they think.A classical player’s job is to show you what the composer thought .
Not  that classical players don't slip a tiny riff in  now and then .

What made Hubbard great is he had something to say that moved  the jazz trumpet along .
IMO , more than anyone else on the scene .

P.S . rok, Buy yourself a notebook .

frogman

Great Freddie Hubbard links. I have all of those albums. What is your take on Hubbard's CTI session Red Clay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA1ZelIbUfI

Rok, I think I'll be expanding the "Afro Peruvian" section of my collection;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keboPv6ZAvE


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8xuRPIdDjc


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX2MX1UDNKU

More favorite Freddie Hubbard:

(Shorter, McCoy, Art Davis, Elvin Jones):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0q2VleZJVElZiXuwHka3uCm94qHZsmaA

(Shorter, Herbie, Carter, Elvin):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0q2VleZJVEnx5kQDEe7kzLdlJ5PFWfrG

This is in Church.   I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FQudk_D_c

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Revelations:

Thanks.   I ordered the Blu-Ray and the CD.   They are awesome.

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Rok, here's Revelations. I caught them every time they came to town.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPJ4kt3a64

Ella Jenkins was one of the singers, and guess what; she was born in St. Louis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_8L96E3eU


It’s time to get the credit card out, thanks.

O-10,
I put my smart phone to use and asked google. It’s, (wade in the water) by Alvin Ailey, on a CD titled ’Revelations’. It’s on Amazon along with several DVDs also. I feel a purchase coming on.

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We're on the same wavelength Rok, that singing was fantastic; like something I heard but I can't remember where.

Freddie Hubbard:

Always like to hear them play the Flugelhorn. My instrument in the concert band. In many cases a much more appropriate tone than Trumpet.
Nice tune.

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Julia Fischer,   She has to have it written down on paper.   They are too different in what and how they play.    Maybe the Rok2id of the Flugelhorn????

I love Freddie Hubbard and I think that is an apt comparison to Fisher.  Because of the recent focus on Herbie Hancock I was going to post this record.  Amazing debut recording from Herbie with some stellar playing by Freddie Hubbard: 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA02D653F26832E7C

One of my favorite trumpet solos on record.  Simple (mostly) and a model of great thematic development:

https://youtu.be/I777BcgQL9o

Wade in the Water:

OP, you are on a roll today!!!   Love the song / singing, but the dancing was on another level.  Loved it!!   WOW!!
I know that's the Alvin Ailey dance group, but who is doing the singing?

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In the dance, what was the significance of the parasol?

Sweet Honey in the Rock:

Excellent!!!   Used to love them.  In my younger days.  I have a few of their CDs, including this one.   I think they have, like us all, gotten wiser with age. 

This is the type of song that turned me off of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_owh_GfS38s  


This is the type song that made me love them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLO5_LrpFzc  

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Pops is Pops.  In a class by himself.

I'm about to get religion today;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_euSS86dvE


I just can't get enough of this one.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Edl29urtc0


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzq5kX6OT_s



There was a paper that came out on Thursday that told about all the entertainment on the weekend in St. Louis, which I eagerly looked forward to; never missed dance or a good play.


       

I’m no expert on Freddy but of what I do have I like this the best .

https://youtu.be/FpNeJZmfwqE?t=3
The Julia Fisher of the trumpet .

I enjoyed your posts Rok, I even put on the headphones. I always liked this one;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_vhBMWWnBE&list=PLeSjQNUK_kinZyzXeZhdzcdeaK4YxYNsX



They were a lot younger when I bought their first record, but like good wine, they improved with age;


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpzEnq14Hs&list=PLeSjQNUK_kinZyzXeZhdzcdeaK4YxYNsX&index=21



     

This round is on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOKHyGtorXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elucuKKfda0

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This Bud's for you Rok,


         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhB-18iOp4o


BTW, I went to Catholic School through the 5th grade, consequently I'm well grounded in the faith.

****** Voodoo has no Bible, yet it exists in Cuba, the Southern USA, Haiti, Brazil, and other parts of South America; you tell me why and how it exists.*****

In a word: Ignorance.

Not in the entire Southern USA, just small areas of New Orleans and Miami. And that’s because of immigrants. Baptists rule elsewhere.

My older sister, who is very smart, just ask her, said, "what do they expect from a country that has Voodoo as a religion. Speaking of Haiti and it’s endless nightmare. She be right.

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Btw, The gate of no return is now a tourist trap.   Operated by, and profited from by the very people that sold the slaves in the first place.   And they say God has no sense of humor.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_FYjpuEOts


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXB7W_-ebE8

"These guys live in the greatest country in the world, courtesy of the Christian God, and all they think of is Africa and voodoo."


Rok, when the snow got deep in St. Louis, I spent a lot of time at the library. They had books hundreds of years old, one of them was "Diary of a Slave Trader", that I read. For some reason I can't find that book anymore, it's as if the book never existed.


          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Public_Library


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67Kwve1YS8

"The Door of No Return" was the one slaves went through when they left "Dahomey", a place so gruesome that no one wants any part of it's history; they have since changed the name to "Benin". Slaves were sold Voodoo amulets before they passed through the door of no return. I have no idea how they paid.

Voodoo has no Bible, yet it exists in Cuba, the Southern USA, Haiti, Brazil, and other parts of South America; you tell me why and how it exists.

acman3

The Herbie Hancock Trio album is definitely better the Third Plane. Might even buy that one. Thanks for posting it.

*****  I agree, but the set up as terrible. Up against a wall with a couch between the speakers*****

You also see a lot of that on the 'Virtual Systems' pages.   Very bad speaker placement. I always wondered about that.

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When did Who move to Finland?

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When did they all move to Finland ??

***** the title "JuJu" in no way fit the music*****

I agree.   I wanted to say that in my post, but didn't want to be too critical, because I love Shorter.

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Dr John knows his voodoo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaJP8w-jW2k

Rok, I have those same thoughts every time I look at those "bass heavy" JBL's

Rok, the title "JuJu" in no way fit the music; "JuJu" is Louisiana "voodoo"; AKA "Gris Gris"


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWvdO3l4_P8


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85VtQTWA7xs


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP4f3nJaAvw

The Sansui light shows were second to none.   Now I can't tolerate anything larger or brighter than a tiny led power light.   Things and people do change.

I see JBL is bringing back some of the speakers I once owned at 5 to 10 times the original price.

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Acman, I looked at that kid going past, and his timing was better than mine. As long as it played loud and had bass you were in.


Rok, that was "high end" at the time; I had one with the prettiest blue lights.

***** I don't mean to bust anybody's bubble, but that stuff in no ways compares to today's equipment*****

Are you dissing my Sansui 5000X with 63 watts of pure Funk Power!?!?

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0-10, I agree, but the set up as terrible. Up against a wall with a couch between the speakers. I was waiting to hear "Turn than down", yelled from the kitchen. ;)

But..., the boy was getting it, even as it was!

Today's Listen:

Wayne Shorter  --  JUJU
with/ McCoy Tyner, Reggie Workman, Elvin Jones

The gang is all here except for the Big Man himself.

From the Notes:  The first eight measures of "house of jade" were written by his wife Irene, an untrained non-musician.  The opening, "JuJu" is thus titled because, Wayne recalls, "when I wrote the tune I was thinking of Africa...."   
 Apparently VooDoo is the Haitian version of JuJu.
These guys live in the greatest country in the world, courtesy of the Christian God, and all they think of is Africa and voodoo. 

All tunes written by Shorter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJvqZHSHxk  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycSfHYEHaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCKOa35Dt1k  

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I don't mean to bust anybody's bubble, but that stuff in no ways compares to today's equipment.

Acman, I found that just looking at all that wood, comforting.

As they say, nothing is perfect in this world but a Japanese garden .

Had not seen this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2sKrOY1_c

Frogman, on Herby Hancock "Head Hunters" ; at the time that came out, I was totally 100% captured by the music, and one of the comments took me back to that time.



"It's 1973. I am in Olney, MD. Sitting in the bedroom of my best friend Timmy Moody. He's got a Marantz model 2600 reciever, a pair of Bose 901 speakers, an Empire 498 turntable with a Shure V15 cartridge. He lights up a Thai Stick and drops the Herbie Hancock Head Hunters album on to the Empire and cranks the volume."


I'm quite familiar with those components, I had the Shure Cartridge, lusted for the Empire 498 turntable, and Bose 901 speakers; those were good times.

         


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZy7v_-ss74

It appears "Third Plane " is extra cuts from the same session as "Herbie Hancock Trio". "Trio " is much better to me. Listening to it now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock_Trio_(1977_album)

Mary-Jo, I've been going back over recent posts, and I can't believe that I preferred Mundell Lowe over Grant Green on that post, but that's the nature of jazz.

He really captured a different mood for "Speak Low", that was very romantic; it took me back to a summer afternoon in Forest Park.

It's fascinating how the same tune by different artists can take you different places;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKpNXtUFKhQ