Jazz for aficionados

@audio-b-dog 

No doubt you are right. I can’t help (whether consciously or unconsciously) but compare Brazilian Pop to the American music that’s far more familiar to me. I’m used to greater dynamic contrasts and variety of mood as opposed to the more understated, mellow MPB approach. Clube Da Esquina is not in this ultra mellow vein, however.  The later "Milton" with H. Hancock and W. Shorter is good if not quite as timeless and and invigorating as Clube:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G85Qa0cnKRk&list=PLHsZtZLpiZPfHDJJBQf5irTiY9lXYCz0E

I like Flora Purim but the 70’s Fusion-tinged recordings that I’ve revisited now sound pretty dated to me, although I haven’t listened to all of them. Yesterday I was listening to some of Airto’s early solo recordings, some of which feature Flora’s vocals. I hadn’t heard those before and am interested enough to listen some more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-NGZptgZw&list=OLAK5uy_kkRo-c0Q-7ABiby0BB_ZHrUuL74N50nMM&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJFMR_fzZI&list=OLAK5uy_kLkFvx7Av-CAb7Wy7psLg75H8YDiSllro

 I will make a point of going through Flora’s recordings more comprehensively to see if there are some that might appeal to me that I’ve either forgotten or never heard.

@stuartk, You’ve already had a chance to check out Hermeto Pascoal here:

tyray 740 posts 06-07-2023 at 08:20 pm

I’d also suggest you do a search not only on his albums but check out some of his gigs with/on Miles albums too, and if you like any of them, post ’em here...

Just in case anyone wants to know what Milton Nascimento album @stuartk and I are talking about it’s the Opus O Clube Da Esquina 1972 - Full Album. The whole entire album is a banger. You can tell he listened to a lot of the Beatles...

@tyray 

Thanks. Somehow I missed your post the first time around. 

Am listening now -- I like this a lot! 

In a different category, but have you heard this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6q_zzP2-8&list=OLAK5uy_nEEzClAHymfvLuGFg72vFUOOTkk8rrKOQ&index=5

@stuartk, @tyray, the Flor Purim album I come back to again and again is "Encounter." I don't think it can be appreciated over computer speakers. I need to play it loud. I bought it when I was buying a lot of Flora Purim albums and for years it was the one I couldn't listen to. Just too abstract. Then one day it clicked and now it's my favorite of her albums. I think it is super sophisticated jazz. Probably the second of her albums is "Stories To Tell," and again her voice goes into abstraction. She can do things with her voice that I have never heard any other singer do. She can "hear" things that few singers can hear. You know how we were talking about everybody in a jazz band inferring the beat, yet nobody hitting right on the beat. She does the same with the melody. Once you can hear the inference... very, very cool!

@stuartk 

Fantastic, very good! Hermeto Pascoal's style of music is derived from the Northeast of Brazil from the town of Lagoa da Canoa in the state of Alagoas.

No, I have not heard of Jorge Strunz of Costa Rica. In fact I can't say I've had the pleasure of listening to any Costa Rican music, that I know of?

@audio-b-dog,

You gotta remember audiogon is a site dedicated to all sorts of audio equipment usage first, not just sharing music. So everyone's rig may be much different than someone else's rig.

Some here have just a turntable an integrated amplifier/stereo receiver and a set of stand alone speakers. While others may or may not have a turntable, streamer and some just use their computer as their front end as a streamer and use powered speakers for playback, stand alone or desktop.

I know you mean no harm, but I notice that sometimes you use absolutes in equipment usage without regarding what others may or may not have for music playback. 

Also keep in mind when we use youtube we use it only as an easy tool that we have at our disposal. Including all the function buttons at the top of the audiogon page where we post our messages to each other. 

I agree with you about Flora's voice. She is a Brazilian Sorceress with her voice inflections which draw you in and you gotta listen to her!