I just ordered the Jam caps after speaking with Frederik at Duelund
He said they are made just like the cast, except the cast use further resonance
And high compression paper case which is much more labor intensive then the Aluminum and better sounding still.which is made in house ,most likely on a Jensen machine but to
A much higher standard. The Tinned Copper is shared by only the Jam,and Cast.
He said it is noticsbly better then the older Alexander,and the paper in oil dielectric allows that deep rich Tone ,where the tin allows the top end to shimmer and Copper gives it depth of detail. My friend in the U.K has used them and he said 400 hours to fully develop but a true bargain. These are currently introductory
Priced . P.s they have the .01 silver paper oil bypass caps which my brother put 4 in his preamp, for $100 each he said it was a bargain for gains in resolution alone and very natural no silver brightness what So ever. |
I have to Agree with ZGranny. The Jupiter foil is just a great cap it does take
All of 400+ hours to fully develop. Thr Arizona cactus Blue say 20% of the value
Of the Jupiter makes a great combo the Aluminum foil in oil for whatever reason works.
the Japanese team who developed the cactus caps had,tin as well as Copper
With the specific Mineral oil Aluminum just works well. magical and he uses this in his amps in Japan.
These caps add a bit of air and depth . Together a great team and much less $$ to the Duelund Cast. The toe jams are still very good But the Jupiter Copper ,
Blue Cactus combo is excellent. I have in my preamp as well as cap- s to my Voxativ driver which will let you know if it is not natural to the ear. |
Please note ,call Jupiter condenser ahead of time,
Chris doesnot all ways have the 3.3uf 100v Jupiter Copper foil made.
If not get a date and secure them, that extra 1uf makes a small additional difference Worth the wait ,if you can't wait just reverse to cactus Blue 3.3uf.
Please note put a drop of hot glue on all leads where coming out of caps a little fragile
And any bending hold with one hand at least 1inch from where lead comes out for support No one wants to ruin s $200 cap ,or any for that matter. |
To Radiohead99
Look for the New Clarity CSA, c for Copper ends a excellrnt cap for the money and clear you have roughly 5% you can go over tolerance wiithout issue..
I have a 68uf cap in the Leonitis crossover this way my Voxativ driver just operates from 350hz on up. Just factor in a 15uf clarity 250v which is more thrn enough volts, a 3.3Jupiter copper, and a 2.2Arizona Blue cactus Jupiter condenser
Sells both caps that is s perfect match . The Jupiter is a 100v for Loudspeaker
You are pulling less then 15 volts on average. Good luck and slliw a minimum of 300 hours runin |
What do you mean no room ? Is this on s munforf screw down board ?
If space needed I put the 2 bigger ones together between dome hot glue
,and sit the smaller one ,cactus in between. No 3. If Jupiter's available
I was told . Go with the 3.3 Arizona Cactus Blue, and a 2.2 Jupiter Copper,
15uf Clarity Csa,250v there will be enough room .
Myself took 2 1ft ,1inch thick Birch and mounted Xover to it .
Had Verastarr make me s longer wire harness by a foot longer progressive per driver . If you don't have the Verastarr cables ,for sure get them .
Bigger difference thrn the cap upgrade the stock wire it comes with ok,
But not in the same League . Greg Weaver- Stereo times gave me the hint
He did all power cords ,then expanded. The owner Mike Powell,
Totally stands behind his gear. $$ back if not happy Period. |
The new Mundorf Evo Supreme best,Gold Silver oil,
Vs the older Supreme Silver,Gold Oil. The new ones seem to be a bit more extended but a bit too tipped up on upper treble. Personally capacitors made with natural paper mixed somewhere as a dielectric, and or in oil sound more natural, or even harmonics to the ear . A team study of Japanese designers stated this too In their findings. Having to do with even harmonics more do when there were distortions in the signal path ,similar to a Vacuum tubes harmonics vs Solid State. . |
Hello please let me regress ,every speaker or driver has different characteristics
no one capacitor is good for everything .
I was just mentioning the cactus cap and Jupiter to be 90%+of theDuelund cast
at 50% less. The Rike Q caps are a great new cap very well balanced
as well as their S-2 caps which are very well priced.
i am putting the jams on the speaker outputs, and as a large output fill with Mundorf Supreme 23uf-3.3uf combo this week
the Duelund Jam are one of the top 4-5 caps in production very detailed
warm,and the tinned Copper ,paper in oil is warm and better then any Jensen copper rip off upcharge because of the paper casing ,total scam
slightly better 35% higher cost use your brain a few % points at most .
duelund great if you have money to forget about and your system better be
well refined first in every phase ,to hear all the micro macro acoustics it does better. If not you will not hear everything Duelund has to offer. Your cables included. I know through over 35 years and a the cost of a nice home in Audio
think things out first. I will update you on these Jam caps in 10 days ,
Happy listening😎 |
Hello Grannyring as far as mixing Clarity and Mundorf do very good
go to Humblehomemadehifi cap test Tony Gee ,whom helped me many times in the past when living in the UK is pretty accurate
sometimes because of workload he does not allow full breakin
especially on oil,foil type caps can vary . Even the new Clarity
Copper, CSA- caps with copper lattic3 end caps I think at least a 9.5 to 10 very well balanced and Clearly better then last years Silver Color ESA caps. These blend excellent with Mundorf.
the new Mundorf Supreme Evo caps are a bittipped up then
the Black Supreme Silver Gold oil caps I found the out when they first came out and in the Humble cap tests comments on this
jantzen superior, and their new Black aluminum foil cap excellent
caps . All depending what to do . Several Japanese designers
stated and I agree the poly caps are not quite as natural as a cap
having at least a bit of oil, and or Paper even harmonics smoother
to the ear. Just a guide line. |
I just installed the 3.3 uf jame , with Mundorf Supreme
pit it should be a big jump , these will take at least 100 hours to start opening up 400 hours + to fully runin .
these are very similar to the cast except cast use a paper tube
heavy resin isolation and apes tube takes much longer to make then the Aluminum can ,1/2 the cost. Maybe 95% of the greatness. |
To Radiohead 99 I used the Duelund Wire for several weeks this summer
plenty nice but warm and not as extended by any means as well as the Verastarr.
I have upgraded from Copper interconnnct which is Very good to their Silver Gold Alloy interconnects, which are one of the best I have ever heard. That being said if your system amp is light sounding the Duelund Wire will be a plus .cable
harness without question the Copper Verastarr is very special after 100 hours ,
The Verastarr Starr are in another class of upgrade cables , Duelund capacitors
are top of the heap in their Cast caps . |
The Duelund RS in my set up the New Duel7nd Jam caps are not full6 broken in my still very similar in build to the Cast same tinned Copper, paper in oil , but cast has there labor intensive resin paper housing vs the Aluminum it has a more dense deep presentation
but not bevy that much . The RS does Not have the Tinned Copper
which all cast caps now have it opens up the top end a bit without
having to go to Silver which is better still. The Adams Are the Best Buy of the Duelund line . Give them at least 150 hours to start opening up and just get better several guys in the UK told me 400 hours is not out of line. Currently intro priced at 40% off .parts connecxion got a big buy at over 60% off. A great bargain and 600
volts inside amp or speakers .
Another less expensive Excellent speaker only cap I just mixed with Jupitercopper caps the New Jantzen AlumenZ foil caps ,100 v
super thin dielectric very fast detailed and smooth.
hifi collective is the only place to buy I know of UK get 3 day Fedex shipping around $30. Jantzen best cap a pr of 3.3uf caps under $100. Very easy to get along with I have Jams caps in preamp.
i took the Arizona Cactus Blue caps nice cap for $$ and put in my external linear power supply for Lumin player ,nice filtering,using thesealso in
Brick wall line conditioner . Can’t go wrong in PS . |
Granny ring The Duelund Wire is a Very good Buy ,especially if need loner runs.
myself just needed about 40 ft total for both speakers for all 6 drivers.
actually a great deal $700 for the Verastarr Copper Wire harness.
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Radiohead99 99 you didn't mention total cap value .unless 20uf is the total for the horn the new Jantze n Alumen z are very good they are smooth and detailed
The Jupiter Copper are dense and smooth , the duelund Jam or still running in
But starting to smooth out excellrnt top end extension if you like natural cymbal
And piano for example. Compared to the New Duelund RE, these Duelund Jam
Are a bit more open having Exactly the same New Tinned Copper as the new Cast
Caps ,and paper in oil. The New cast just coming out is top dog but Huge and $$
Expensive, I have the JAMS IN MY PREAMP , and very impressed my brother has the jams 3.3 if and 2- Jsntzen 10uf Alumen Z caps for highs and mids Excellent
Combination slightly warm but Superior top end ,even better then the Jupiter Copper 3.3 they were in there , the Jupiter are excellent but if you need or want
The extra extention as in the New Duelund Cast but at a much lower cost
These caps are Great buys at 40% off retail ,Only while they have them ,parts connexion bought a bunch at 60% off ,as a prokotion from Duelund.
There is no such best cap for everything, size,and price come into play.
The New Jantze n, Alumen Z sound great and blend well with others
Smooth and detailed ,run just with these and say Duelund Silver oil bypass caps
A great cost effective setup. For your horn $600 for Both speakers 20uf.
Just a thought.its your $$ |
One thing guys for big values over 10 w the Munforf Supreme Resistors are very good. For tweeter- midrange the most musical I have found Path Audio, ,and most certainly the most accurate out of of 12 ,not 1 even came to 1% variance and have a nice natural balance and depth far better then then even Duelund which mask s bit of detail even their cast very up to 10%,5%+, 5%-. And are $$ . Don't over look them
I had the mundorf on the Voxativ driver, when the Path came in replaced even without breakin better everything especially depth,kidbass,low bass.
The engineer said 150 hours to fully runin, and they have a ground wire to ground
For added quiet if needed. For roughly $28 each well worth the small investment. |
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A 2.2 Jupiter Copper and 18uf Jantze n is also a very good combo.
The bypass caps can all ways be added ,you have a Copper, or silver option
Depending what you need more of . Silver for more top end, copper for more meat
On the bones.
The path Audio are 10 watt . For horn Only . For woofers not as sensitive
To critical midrange. Write yo Chris , parts connexion tech support
The munforf 20W supreme is there for the big woofers If you want to improve them cut off rivets holding wire , get 18awg Neotech solid core wire 2- 4inches pieces solder where you cut . Much better. Stock are Nicole plated copper. |
My Duelund Jam 3.3 caps put in my preamp are finally settling in nicely
about 200 hours still another 100 hours to go it sounding excellent
remember these have the same Tinned Copper as the new cast, and paper in oil.
but in a less expensive Aluminum can vsthe resin paper that the cast has which
gives it a deeper sound stage and image depth .these are as good and better then the RSmodel on the top end having the Tinned Copper ,the RS don’t have ,
but has better imaging . For the money especially the introductory price a true bargain. Very nice cap ,one of the best out there .
for Speakers New cap Jantzen AlumenZ foil caps Very well balanced and decent price. |
Finally run in the New Duelund Jam caps are Excellent, great detail, depth
And with this latest technologies, The Tinned Copper gives thst extra sparkle and air vs just Copper these being too paper in oil. They do not have the paper case which is better still .
But Duelund just came out with a Bypass cap with Paper case ,
And s silver foil if your system iscslready rich ,and even better detail,
But not as much body .you will have to decide which us better.
Both are under $100 each at Parts connecxion. |
