It is frustrating.....


I'm an audiophile because I'm a music lover. Like most of the people on this site, I try cables, equipment, spikes, etc with one goal : to get the best out of 'canned' music, make it as close to life performance as possible. Knowing that 'perfect' reproduction is impossible, I go to live concerts as much as I can - on the average 10 classical music concerts, 2 ~ 3 operas, some jazz concerts per year.

Than it starts to become frustrating. Third time this year, I have left a concert at the break in Lincoln centre (NYC).

The acoustics : great, individual instruments : very palatable (!), no coloration, yadi yada yada...

Performance : miserable. No soul, no urge, no involvement from the orchestra... No pride in their work ?

Give me my 'miserable' listening room, 'coloring' cables, 'imperfect' equipment ... even a 'mono' CD - but a good, involving performance !

I'm not even talking about 'technical / mechanical' performance of the musicians - for me, technical brilliance is important, but secondary. It is the feel, interpretation, the 'soul' which is more important.

And the audience - horrible (see the thread 'cough vigilante). It is actually worse ... May be someday they will sell popcorn in the concert halls...

I have decided that I can save that $50/$60 per person / per concert, plus the trimmings, to buy 'canned' performances.

No wonder that the industry is complaining about less and less concert goers - they've just lost two.

Sorry for the rumblings.... I had to let some steam out...
ikarus

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For those who live near Boston, I highly recommend the Boston Philharmonic and music director Ben Zander. Not only does the orchestra care, the audience does also, so it is a unique experience. Be sure to go early to Ben's pre-concert lecture, not to be missed.
If you are referring to the NY Phil, I've watched/listened to the "Live from Lincoln Center" broadcasts on TV & Radio and I've had the impression they are playing on Auto Pilot.

This is not just them. I've had the same impression at times sitting in Symphony Hall in Boston. Ozawa is now gone, so maybe some new blood will help. But it is not just the Music Director. The musicians have to care


I am very lucky to now be down near Baltimore. New music director Yuri Temirkanov is fantastic. I find I can't wait for each concert to take place. They have everything you say your orchestra lacks.
Temirkanov was asked why he decided on Baltimore of all places. He guest conducts all the worlds major orchestras, and with his stature could almost have his pick of where he wanted to go. What he said was informative. He said Baltimore has an excellent orchestra, but they yearn to be even better. Therefore, it is an orchestra he can work with to attain something. They are open to new ideas and taking chances. He also related that some orchestras know they are great, so they are content, "which is very dangerous".

To give you an idea of the musicians in Baltimore, the principal cellist is famous for being offered the principal's chair of the MET orchestra in NYC without even auditioning or applying for the position. A lot of cellist would die just to get an audition. He turned it down; was not interested in being in NY. A lot of the musicians are faculty at the Peabody Conservatory at John's Hopkins.


I can also relate to the coughing. It is so rude. It is possible to cough quietly if you can't help it. They could at least cover their mouth with something.


You should take the train down to Baltimore some evening when Yuri is conducting.

Another thing the managements are doing is booking all these Teenage wonderkins for $$$ reasons. They play fast with no technical mistakes, but also with no nuance, soul, emotion, etc. But is sell lots of tickets and they are cheaper to contract. The typical person going to the Symphony to be "seen" does not know the difference.

There was a concert conducted by Temirkanov in January with british pianist John Lill who most of you probably have never heard of. They play the Beethoven 5th (Emperor) concerto. Lill was a Tchaikovsky runner-up in the 60s. He does not usually play much outside of europe. Well the concert was fantastic; as good an any Beethoven played by Solomon, Curzon, Perahia, etc. The concert hall was only about 60-65% full at the most. Regular concert goers are not interested in a Bald, middle-aged foreign pianist they have never heard of. The people who did show up probably did so because is was a chance to hear Temirkanov. In the end happily, the ones who did show up gave Lill four rounds of loud well deserved applause.

I will be printing and saving your post Jlggomez, thanks.

One more frustrating thing managements are doing around the country is classifying "cross-over" artists in with the classical artists. I fully support Mark O'Conner and Bobby McFerrin's right to perform their art, but IMHO they are POPs concerts and do not belong in my subscription. The first thing I do when I get my subscription in the mail each year is exchange them away before they even print the tickets for the season. It's strange because most POPs schedules are the same old thing (mostly show tunes) and including these in the POPs series would do more to introduce the POPs crowd to something "more classical" instead of annoying the classical crowd. Bobby McFerrin is very talented, but paying money to hear him HUM Mozart Serenades just does not cut it for me.

The organization Tilson Thomas started is the New World Symphony. It is intended as an alternative to Conservatories. In the past, if you did not get into a conservatory for whatever reason, and get the experience in orchestra playing needed to get a good job with a major orchestra, you were locked out of that kind of career. Tilson Thomas started this as a way for good young musicians who missed out on the conservatory experience, to get the training they need to get a job with a good orchestra. He calls it "An Orchestra Academy". Tilson Thomas is a Saint for starting this. You can find out about it at WWW.NWS.ORG
Yes, they do go to be seen, especially in this area. Go to the Kennedy Center sometime. See all the fur coats and fancy dresses. See them all hang out in the same area and gossip. Every performance gets a standing ovation no matter if it is good or bad. This is is a Friday and Saturday night I will confess, but interesting to watch from a distance. Baltimore is not as bad but very similar on Saturday. I am out of place not being in a suit, especially in the box seats.
I am performing in a concert with Dave Brubeck on March 24th in Baltimore. I am not sure who is crossing over to who. Dave has composed a lot of music for chorus and jazz quartet, so I guess we are meeting half-way. We will be recording the music the next day coming to a Tower Records near you. Anyone interested in coming? More information at www.baltimorechoralarts.org