Isolating Digital Noise, need help.


I'm hearing noise from my ARC CDP thru my speakers presenting as a high frequency "whine" or "soft screeching." I need to isolate my digital from the AC line it shares with my analogue components. Running another dedicated line is not an option at this time.

I was wondering if a power strip with isolated receptacles, such as star-grounding, would be an alternative to a separate AC line.
As a test, I now have the CDP connected to a different outlet in my house and the noise thru my system is eliminated.

Would this type of power strip be an effective solution, and if so, I could use some recommendations. I have several layers of Blue Circle power conditioning, so I would need a strip with surge/EMF/RFI protection.
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@jea48, so far there is no high-pitched noise when using the stock PC on the ARC. Perhaps the Audience PC is not a good design for a digital device?

The stock PC sounds pretty good thru my power conditioner, but lacks the open soundstaging and depth of an audiophile PC.
I actually have a Synergistic Research Black PC on order for demo.

Since I'll be adding a DAC, I will still need to isolate digital from analogue components. Is a dedicated line the only way?
Also, I still need to work on the ground-loop problem between amp and preamp, and that will require a separate AC line.
Gotcha so this noise from the ARC is new or have you heard it combined with the Atma preamp the whole time?
jond, I've had to use the cheater on the preamp from the beginning due to 60Hz hum. Spoke to Ralph at Atma-Sphere and Almarg and the problem is due to ground loop thru unbalanced cables.
The Jensen Iso-Max didn't work on the preamp, there was still low-level hum and it changed the sonics of the preamp.

The ARC is the issue. No noise when using my backup NAD CDP.
lowrider57 you're sure the ARC is the issue? Have you tested other sources just to be sure? And you mention using a cheater plug on the preamp, did you try the cheater before of after you started hearing this noise?
@xti16, good question. I am hearing this noise since I added a new preamp (Atma-Sphere UV-1) which is much more transparent than the previous one and has higher gain.
 What's interesting is that it is so resolving, I can hear the change in noise from the power grid at different times of the day. I have a dedicated line, but live in the city. Late at night, the line is quiet.

It's an ARC CD3 mk II which is SS. And to answer xti16, I use a Jensen Iso-Max transformer to help with a ground-loop issue. It does cut the level of the high-pitched whine, but not completely.
I will be adding a DAC, so I need a plan for expanding my digital and to keep it isolated.

@jea48, yes I've used a cheater plug. You helped advise me on my dedicated line thread, where I wanted to add a line to remove a ground-loop between the amp and the preamp. Since I'm using unbalanced interconnects, the consensus was that an additional line would not guarantee the removal of the ground-loop.
I haven't installed that line yet since the layout of my circuit box is a mess and can't afford the electrical work at this time. So I'm using a cheater-plug on the preamp, as much as I don't like the idea, and a Jensen on the CDP.

My PC on the CDP is an Audience PowerChord, but I can try the stock cable for a test.
Lowrider is this a new problem that cropped up overnight? Is the whine present in both channels? Does your Arc have tubes? Tubes can make some very strange sounds especially when getting microphonic. If it does have tubes try tapping them lightly to hear if the noise changes.

I was wondering if a power strip with isolated receptacles, such as star-grounding, would be an alternative to a separate AC line.
As a test, I now have the CDP connected to a different outlet in my house and the noise thru my system is eliminated.

For a test did you try using a ground cheater plug on the ARC CDP? I would suggest you try that first.

It sounds to me from your post the power supply of the CDP is corrupting the power supply/s of the analog equipment. You might look into a power conditioner for the CDP to isolate the CDP power cord from the analog power cord/s.

Does the ARC CDP have a detachable power cord? If so are you using the stock power cord that came with the CDP or an aftermarket power cord?

If it is an aftermarket power cord you might want to make sure it is wired correctly. Make sure the Hot and Neutral conductors AC polarity are not flipped from the plug and the IEC connector.




 

 

I'm not a big fan of power strips. Have you considered a small isolation transformer or a small battery regenerator?

Another thought. Do you have a Nordost or Ansuz dealer close by. I ask because you may be amazed how well products like the Nordost QV2/Qk1 and or Ansuz Sparkz TC work. Maybe borrow one for an in home demo if you have an open outlet. I'm not sure if it would cure your whine because I've never run across a 'whine' problem due to power. I have an Ansuz MainzD8 power distribution and it does isolate analog from digital.