Is optical mostly a waste of time versus Ethernet?

The giga foil filter is about $600.  Isn't a quality switch accomplishing the same thing in a broader more effective way. Giga foil sounds interesting but you can't place it before switch because the switch only introduces lots of noise unless it's designed to prevent the noise.  So the giga foil would seem only usable after a switch.

1. Seems the etherregen is a glorified fiber media converter, which may do a really good job but it's extremely expensive when only used as a fiber media converter Once you use ER as a fmc you can't really use the remaining ethernet ports because it will adversely impact the optical connection what's lots of spillover noise from the other ports. Not sure why ER doesn't do a simple network switch without optical. And not sure their fmc is very good.

Who is small green computer? Kind of a curious company that relies heavily on etherregen. 

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What the heck does a opticalrendu do?

Very confusing

So it's a streamer and yet it didn't say this when I was trying to figure out what it was. 

This is the description from the Sonore website: it is pretty darn confusing for those of us with lower IQs.
 

Sonore opticalRendu project is an extension of the microRendu and ultraRendu projects that came before it. The design is inspired by audiophile gear and meant to bring grace and simplicity to a microcomputer. The original microRendu was very small and intended to be hidden out of sight behind your other gear. The opticalRendu can be powered by your favorite power supply. The opticalRendu has optical Ethernet input and USB-Audio output with all the connectors located on the rear of the unit for easy cable routing. The opticalRendu utilizes a new proprietary printed circuit board with only the essential components and many updates to match its optical designation. The best way to connect the opticalRendu to a USB device is via your favorite USB cable. The opticalRendu is easy to configure, accepts streams from various sources, and includes our latest version of our operating system Sonicorbiter.

Seems router that does optical output would be ideal and why would this not be a great ? 

Thank you, although still unclear how are you have cured bidirectional Ethernet connection with a server.  Unfortunately isn't two way communication integral to the process?

A router without Wi-Fi means you should be using a switch if needed.  Not really practical though.

sns, thank you again for your answer.

OK so 2 ethernet ports is what you use. I guess my problem is, a server generally only has one Ethernet port. My nucleus has only a Single ethernet port.

What do you physically connect your ethernet cables to relating to server.

Thank you

That goes against the grain of humanity. Utopia is what it is you describe and that simply is taboo

For whatever reason, evil challenges efforts to explain things so they are understood. Genius is the ability to explain things so they can be understood and successfully dispel interfering demons. Always good that someone explaining something truly understands the subject as well as possessing the ability to clearly communicate. To have both is a strong indicator that the Angels of Genius are involved.

This thread has become a waste of time. There are some really good answers included here but some of the tangents really disappointing.

In summary it’s all about the noise passing through the ethernet cable and dealing with it. Network switches help by not adding noise, maybe canceling out some of it, and offer clocking benefits. Enough said

So maybe a router that is Wi-Fi free should be used to connect all the audio stuff and you can then connect a router with a Wi-Fi daisychained to the first router, because everyone needs Wi-Fi.

Does this seem like a really good idea?

To me the Wi-Fi free router looks like a switch. Maybe connect an audiophile Grade switch directly to the modem and then connect a router to the switch for all those non-audiophile related item. And then connect all the audio equipment stuff to the first switch that is connected to the modem. Does this solve anything?

Of course excluding gear from a router may impair security concern issues.

Everyone is talking about noise which has merit, but what about clocking and jitter. Seems this is the most important thing relating to clarity no one talks about.  faster and more precise clocking chips which seem to have Great impact on sonic performance.  Dacs do their own reclockin but when what they get is in better shape it really helps I guess.

So does anybody know anything about clocking? And also Basic network switches allow the data gate to remain open at a constant rate, ie 100 mbs.  Versus an audio file switch which better controls for the lower dataflow needs which is closer to 5 to 10 Mbs, which limits the transfer of noise I guess. Not sure how this exactly happens.

Lots of talk about packet loss which doesn’t sound good. How many packets are we talking about versus the actual volume of packets that arrive every second.

Packet loss sounds a lot like election fraud. Oh no

Uptone is of questionable value. All about positive reinforcement. I bought one and really haven't seen any value in it at all.

no one understands what's going on inside this thing. It's all gibberish. Someone has created a lot of circuitry within this Metal box they created and they're selling it.

And then you hear that crappy Power cord they sell with it. Horrifying. They want you to buy a power supply upgrade after spending $600 on a switch. 
 

And then they say well you can't use more than one item on it because it contaminates the signal.  So don't dare to share it with anything else on your net work.

At least they could've furnished a longer power cord a better quality.  Right now it's just a pain in the neck to deal with

Fredrik222,

Hey I just read your last post —— was this supposed to be humorous?  It comes across especially harsh.  Sometimes attempts at humor don't go very well.  Keep practicing you'll get there soon.