Integrated amp: Component weight


I'm an older guy with a bad back looking to spend $5-10K on an integrated amp.  Before I get into functionality, connectivity, or even sound quality, my threshold considerations are price, power, and weight.  My 86dB-sensitivity Harbeths do best with the equivalent of a 200-300wpc solid-state unit, I need to drive a variety of analog & digital sources, hope to keep weight under 40lbs, and want to stay away from "classic" Class D designs.  Been there, done that, D simply didn't work in my system.

My question: Does anybody know of any published listing of amplifiers that compares products by weight or size?

So far, I've only found a few 15-35lb models that meet this initial filter, from sellers like Ayre, Devialet, & Bryston, and, surprisingly, even ARC.  However, there are connectivity & functionality issues that make these otherwise-terrific options a poor fit.

Any suggestions?

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Update: I don’t see a lot of documentation, but I’m getting the impression that the $6-10K T+A integrateds are all Class D. I’m willing to concede that there are some really superb-sounding Class D amps amps out there, but without the ability to audition before buying, I’m staying away from D topologies across the board. Dumping my current well-reviewed Class D amps is one of the main motivations for my current upgrade.

Re: Chord, I’m amazed at how much misinformation there is on Audiogon about this company. Some of the most adamant posters even confuse the Chord cable mfr with the Chord amp/DAC company. Sigh.

Chord makes Class AB gear that lowers weight by utilizing a switching power supply. But, jeez, that's not a Class D topology.  And while SPS’s are associated with switching noise, that’s not an automatic dealbreaker. A well-designed product -- like the Chord amps, apparently -- can prevent that noise from polluting the audio signal.  That's hardly news.

The pudding for me is that Chord reviews in the more credible audiophile press are consistently glowing, and seem to position the overall SQ of the Ultima line (starting at $11K) maybe one level above similarly priced offerings from the likes of Benchmark & Byrston. (The Ultima Reference line is out of my price range, so I haven’t investigated it.)  And those who own Ultimas give high praise to their performance.  Some claim that the Chords sound best with systems like Martin Logan electrostats and Wilson Sashas, and not so much with "lesser" speakers.  But that's a can of worms I can't address without first-hand experience.

Hey, I don’t have a horse in this race, and have no commitment at this point to a Chord purchase. But after a deep dive into the company, I've come to the conclusion that its amplification products don’t deserve to be dismissed as "overly bright", much less Class D-compromised or, even less rationally, being criticized as being (in the worst possible sense of the word) "pretty."  Come on.

The Chord Ultima Integrated may be a bit beyond my budget at $11,250 for an analog-only integrated, but I’d still add it to my A list, along with Benchmark, Byrston, Ayre, & Hegel integrateds.  It seems to be a well-conceived, well-designed, and well-built product.  Not sure how well it would mate with Harbeths, but I get the impression that a good fit is not unlikely.

Any Chord amp owners (not DAC owners) out there who'd like to contribute some first-hand feedback?

 

 

FINAL DECISION (WELL, NOT QUITE, BUT HERE'S THE BEST CANDIDATE YET):

When I finally completed the spreadsheet nothing jumped out at me. 

Ayre, Hegel, Bryston, Benchmark, Devialet, Audionet, Chord, Pass Labs, Simaudio Moon were all near-misses.  Every one was tempting, but none were a close enough fit.  Didn't think this would be so complicated.

But now, one more contender has appeared: T+A's brand-new R 2500 R (not to be confused with similarly named products).  Not only does this 31lb box do everything I need, but it includes a DAC/streamer that is probably better than what I'd buy as a separate.  The DAC is an update of T+A's popular $7500 model, albeit with slightly lower specs, like only (!) 512K DSD.  And the streamer even includes HDMI video passthrough for integration into a home theater. 

If I was to break a cardinal rule & consider an integrated with an embedded DAC/streamer, T+A is one of the few companies I'd short-list.  And at the risk of starting a war, I personally believe that combining a DAC & streamer in the same box is a better idea, all things equal, than connecting the two with cables and an external clock.

The R 2500 R offers about 200 wpc into 6 ohms, outstanding connectivity, and even a CD transport & FM/DAB tuner.  Overall SQ (this is T+A, of course) is likely to be as good or better than any other unit I've looked at.  It's been shipping for two months, has not yet reviewed in any venue I trust, and has already sold out at most dealerships.  But I can wait for a product that looks as spectacular as this one on paper.

As I've mentioned, I can't get out of the house, but a colleague will be demoing it at AXPONA next week.  So I should know more.

The biggest downside: $19K is way above my original budget. Still, all I would need to add would be cables & power cord. 

Maybe I'll post a thread asking for any hands-on owner feedback.  Assuming that there's anybody on Audiogon who actually owns one.

The Technics G-700 integrated is a well received and well reviewed unit. It has 70 watts into 8ohms and 140 into 4--plenty of power. It also has several patented hardware solutions to keep the Class D power on plane. The best part is the cost is about $2,800 retail and weighs under 30 pounds.

 

 

 

Consider any of the current Bel Canto integrated amps.

Alternately I am a fan of the Rogue Pharoah.

Or if an all in 1 integrated has appeal Cambridge Evo 150 might cut it or beefier NAD M33 with built in DSP might check all the boxes. 

Consider forgetting the weight issue and find a strong friend.   Think it through, find  a good place, set it once and leave it.  Consider Hegel h390 or hegel units above. 
All The Best!