Inexpensive Phono Cables Recommendations


I would appreciate a little advice from the Forum concerning phono cables recommendations.

As a threshold matter, I realize that the subject of phono cables has been exhausted on the Forum. So, please note that I have done my own research by reading through quite a few threads and have a general sense about the importance of phono cables. Although, asking an open-ended question about cable recommendations is a little like asking for "best speaker" recommendations (over 1300 posts on A'gon so far and still counting), it seems that the Cardas name comes up frequently.

I have two general questions: (1) How important are the I/C cables from the phono pre TO the line stage?? If important, I would appreciate some inexpensive suggestions that will yield a lot of bang for the buck. The cable I/Cs will need to run 10-12 feet from the phono pre to the line stage AND are RCA single ended. (2) I would appreciate some inexpensive suggestions for phono cables from the TT TO the phono pre. The phono cables will need to run roughly 5-6 feet from the TT to the phono pre and are also RCA single ended.

I realize that recommendations can be equipment specific, so here's a summary of the relevant equipment. Cartridge: (a) currently using a DV 20X2H MC, output voltage is 2.3 mV; but also (b) trying to buy a VPI Zephyr MI, output voltage is 2.4 mV, Zephyr looking to see 47K ohm impedance and 100-200 pF capacitance. TT is VPI Classic 1 w/ upgrade Classic 3 tone arm. Phono pre is an ARC PH-7, selectable input impedance (incl 47K ohm) and 200 pF capacitance. Linestage is an ARC Ref 3.

As can be seen from the specs listed above, the VPI Zephyr is looking to see between 100 and 200 pF of capacitance (I assume that's a "ceiling," not "floor"), BUT my PH-7 will present the cartridge with 200 pF of capacitance. So, on the surface, it appears that the cable I/Cs between the TT and the PH-7 should probably not present significant additional capacitance, or else, I assume, there may be a degradation of sonics.

Thanks.

P.S. I am embarrassed to disclose what I am currently using for phono I/Cs, but just assume that they are NOT strings held tauntly between Campbell Soup cans.

Oh. . . very important fact -- I do NOT use a ground wire and there is NO hum.
bifwynne
Thanks Braab -- I agree 100% with you. I am very grateful for the advice from the other responders. My sense is that since the connection between the phono pre and line stage is working with stepped up voltage (e.g., 4-6 V), the connection between the TT and phono pre is way more important because the signal is so low (i.e., 2.3 mV or something like that). I gather from the advice above that key parameters to be mindful about are capacitance and impedance. Either can degrade a tiny cartridge signal to the phono pre.
I've been quite happy with the Blues cables from KABusa.com. $22 for a 1-meter pair.
-Bob
Marakanetz really wants you to buy a phono preamp with balanced outs!

Sorry if I'm being a jerk. I guess it's really none of my business if someone wants to answer a totally different question than the one you've asked.
That 5-6' run from the TT to the phono preamp would concern me more than anything else. I would try to shorten that as much as possible. A LOMC cartridge doesnt put out much voltage, so any drop would be critical. Is there any way you can get it closer?