Indentical measurments = Identical performance?


I’ve been doing A LOT of thinking lately. In particular, about the importance of audio measurments for source components like DACs and CD players.

 

Let us first assume that we have 2 identical DACs or 2 identical CD players. You wouldn’t dare suggest that the same models sound inherently different, now would you? Well we can prove that the output of each device in this scenario is identical by doing a null test. We capature the output of the DACs and CD players and learn that their waveforms (let’s say a 30 second clip) are identical. The only time we might see a difference is in an engineering/manufacturing hiccup...and that is RARE considering we have globalization in the modern world today followed by quality control standards that are not necessarily difficult to get right.

 

And so, if put to practice, any 2 digital audio components that have similar enough measurements should sound identical. For example, a DAC with a SINAD or SNR or 120 dB vs one with a SINAD or SNR of 123. Tiny differences in linarity and frequency response above 20 KHz are not audible to us humans anyway.

Because most of our listening dare not go up to 110 dB, which is the threshold of discomfort. You could only listen for up to about 30 minutes at this level without risking hearing loss! For this reason, the ideal listening level is below that!

 

Should we forget about what companies try to sell us as high-end and focus purely on measurements with respect to accurately reproducing digital audio?

 

Here’s what’s really funny. The Chord DAVE performed worse with respect to measurments than the Chord Hugo TT2! Just see audio science review.

 

Lastly, I consider ASR the best objective website on the internet, bar none. Because if Amir really had a business relationship with any of these audio companies, their flagship or most expensive products would always perform at the very top; we see that is not the case and measured performance is all over the place!

 

Looking forward to hearing from you guys. Let’s not turn this discussion into a flame war. If you disagree with what I’ve written, just tell me why. I will investigate.

 

 

jackhifiguy

Showing 2 responses by henry53

asvjerry, I doubt your proposition could be proven right or wrong. If I knew something was 0.0000000003% THD does that mean I can hear it, does it mean I believe I can hear it, or does it mean my expectation is I can't hear it. As probably the amplifier and certainly the speakers have more than 0.003% THD then what distortion can you expect to hear 0.3%. 0.03%. Investigation seems to agree that we could hear 0.5% but not 0.05%, so as we cannot possibly hear 0.003% why would we ever have such an expectation?

ASR recently gave a DAC a junk rating because of 1 reading, distortion at 0.003%. Can anyone hear distortion at 0.003%, no. Tube amps with 0.5% distortion are considered good, turntables would be consider at least OK, speakers are often stated as less than 1% distortion. As a measurement predicting poor performance quoting 0.003% is totally useless , to use as the basis for allocating junk status is ridiculous. No one can hear it, so an average CD or other DACS measure 'better", this is analysis paralysis.