Inboard phono stage in a 7k+ integrated, how good versus standalone units?


Supposing a 7k plus integrated where you could add a mm/mc phono card (actually two mono phono cards in this case), and supposing the quality of assembly and parts equal that of the amp, which is pretty high, is it worth going for versus an outside box especially if you cannot audition it first?

I am thinking one less box plus no need for an expensive interconnect. Cost of the phono cards around $ $800 installed....my integrated is the Norma revo IPA-140.

I have been totally stunned by this jewel from day one after owning a truckload of both tube and SS integrated and separates.

Interested by the musical surroundings Nova and the ifi micro phono2.

Not a hard-core vinyl user, but still I enjoy playing my few LP's.

Thanks if you can help!
sonicbeauty

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Thanks for your reply wspohn,

Your comment "whatever you have will no longer be state of the art" is not the issue here. Owning "state of the art" is not a priority, good sound is, and I have heard many "state of the art" units (amps, preamps, whatever) that were state of the art but really did not sound very good. Probably because of component mismatch, the no.1 culprit most of the time.

About the example you mention of your Classé with twin phono boards on board not being good as separate units, well it is all subjective of course.

Having owned Classé gear for a short time before bringing in the norma integrated, I can assure you that, to my ears at least, the norma is much more refined and overall much more transparent and harmonically rich. It is just a better machine, even though the Classe of course is nice too.

And if the sound of an integrated, or even separates don’t rock your boat, it won’t matter if you put an on-board phono card or go with an external box.

And by the way, I am not a fan of updates. Some of my past purchases have actually been downgrades ! It all depends on what your motivations are.