In search for speakers of "natural" sound


Hello,
I am using a pair of Harbeth speakers. However, I am not satisfied with the 'naturalness' of the sound (it could be that I am so demanding). I am looking for a pair of speakers that can produce the more natural and organic sound than Harbeth if there is any.

I know that it depends on the amp, cables, and other variables. However, let's assume that with the appropriate gears, which speakers do you think can produce the "most natural sound"? By "natural", I mean the sound that we hear directly from musical instruments, from the singer without going through any amplification.

There is a user mentioning that speakers from the past used that 'natural sound' as a reference when designed speakers. In contrast, the sound today (even the hi-end one) is to "hi-fi". He guessed it could be less people have chance to listen to live / acoustic music than before.  

Is it right?

Thank you for your experience and recommendation!
Best,
Huy.

P.S: I know that my questions are silly and dumb, please bear with me.


quanghuy147

Showing 3 responses by asvjerry

*chuckle*
Invoke 'natural' and they're off and running.... ;)
Me?  Just an absurder...'scuse, an Observer....*G*

audiokinesis has some good observations on the subject, as does fsonic...mapman (Hi, guy! *G*) and I are Walsh omni fans, although our taste in 'device applied' is somewhat Different (Ohm vs. DIY, respectively), although the basic desire and concept is the same.

All recorded music is subject to all the tech and tricks that I'm sure you're aware of....in short, a construct.  At the end of the day, all we can strive for is what sounds 'correct'...IMHO, YHO, Anyones'...

I've got the usual 'inputs'...TT, CD, tape, digital sources....
i've got direct radiators, ribbons, my Walsh's...even a pair of Maggies....
Working to add a pair or two of DMLs', just to add to the 'reference mix' of having at play just to be able to 'sample' what they sound like.
My 'stack' of equipment can't go into the typical 'living room'; it looks like a Frankenstack of consumer/pro/DIY/'puter 'stuff' that I can apply 4 levels of eq AND xover AND switchgears so that any or ALL can be running at once....so I can either make them sound like themselves, alone...

...or like each other....in a (granted) crappy space

I find more variance in the recordings.

Pick what sounds good to you.  Until you fall out of love with it.

Happy hunting, and good variable factors. *S*
" You can lead a horse to water, but you can't fix a wife. That's a WAF joke."

...also known as 'gallows humor', the initial response to the Trojan women's 'strike', or another aside from the current  _resident....
('P' deleted on purpose) ;)....

I'm lucky, I suppose...my spouse generally likes what I make music Sound like....it's what I occasionally choose to Play on it that invokes 'THE LOOK' that made Medusa infamous...

She likes the AMT's, Loves the Maggies' (but can't sit still...*shrug*), and is actually looking forward to when I can make the Walsh's a bit more *ah* LRF (Living Room Friendly) if there's going to be 4 of them....(*...rubbing hands with glee*)....
@mafra...Now, that seems interesting, a box with pipes....that, in itself, likely doomed it from the start.  Regards of how well it performed, a 'not normal' appearance would make WAF likely nil....even in the pre-EU era...pity, that....
It would be interesting if you ever remember the name of those units; please PM me if you do....*S*

@stringreen , agreed...and holds true for speakers as well.  It's music Reproduction at the end of the day...
Even if the tech extends itself to a VR version of 'audio only', it'll still get sieved through instrumentation.  Nothing will replace a pair of organic ears affixed to the sides of one's head...despite the clutter betwixt them.  It's that wetware in there that has to determine if it's Real...or 'Real Enough'.

'Ambiance', 'air', 'dimension', 'depth', and all the other descriptive terms we apply to our listening environments and the devices we employ to recreate the music we enjoy...are still artificial.  They depend on the 'suspension of disbelief', the same as a 3D movie, a VR program, or any other means to the desired end.

Spend 1K$ or 1M$...

You're still 'not there'.

@audiokinesis  is right...Even with 'ancient ears', used/abused over my lifespan....even I can discern a 'live instrument'....or voice....over reproduction.

Nirvana is still a mental construct....that we take to our graves....*shrug*

(Yes, I know that you know all of the above 'MHO'....preaching to the choir, that's already shuffling out the door, those who haven't died of boredom or worse (put that gun Down).....all we can do is play 'musical equipment' (literally) in search of the artifacts that resolve the illusion to our satisfaction....)