Impressed with Tubes


For the first time, I auditioned a pair of Paradigm Reference Studio 100s run through a Rogue Perseus tube preamp & a Rotel RB1080 S/S power amp. Prior to that, I have never auditioned a tube preamp. Wow! What a difference! A richer, more integrated sound with the Rogue Perseus compared to S/S alternatives. Now that I am hooked on tubes, a few quick questions:

(1) Would there be a significant difference if I went with a tube power amp as well?

(2) Compared to the Rogue Perseus, has anyone had any experience with the Rogue Metis preamp?

(3) Other recommendations for tube preamps?

I am having a ball doing research for a new 2-channel system. And listening to a tubed component for the first time was a real treat!

Thank you for any help!

Kit
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Showing 3 responses by atmasphere

*In general* If you go with a tube amplifier you will find it smoother and more detailed than the best of transistors, if the speaker is compatible with the tube amplifier. This is because tubes obey the rules of human hearing to a much greater degree than transistors do (although this is not to say that that couldn't change in the future).

You've already heard how this works with preamps- its the same with power amplifiers.

Keep in mind that if you are investing in tube power, your investment dollar will be better served by a speaker that is 8 ohms or more (particularly in the woofer region) than a speaker that is 4 ohms.
Pubul57 and Phaelon, my comments about 4 ohms has little to do with the tube amp in question. 4 ohm taps on output transformers in general have less performance than the higher impedance taps, regardless of the size of the output transformer. Its *easy* to demonstrate!

IOW a simple way to get a speaker to appear to be more transparent is to keep the impedance high. The speaker won't sound any different, but the tube amp driving it (regardless of the amp) certainly will.

If you could switch a speaker from 4 ohms to 16 ohms and keep all the other variables equal, the result is that the tube amplifier will make less distortion, have more bandwidth and exhibit slightly more power. Right now the only way to demonstrate that is by using a set of ZEROs to accomplish the conversion from a 4 ohm speaker to 16. But if the speaker were 16 to start with, things would be even better.

Over the holiday weekend, I found out that at least one major manufacturer of transistor amplifiers also found out that higher impedances helps transistors sound better too- not because of limited current availability, but due to the aspects of the way the transistors work in the first place.
He used a set of ZEROs to discover this.

The evidence suggests that there is not really a good argument for 4 ohms regardless of tube or transistor, although the reasons are different depending on the amplifier.
They don't seem to help if the impedance of the speaker is already eight ohms or more.

That's kind of my point- the move to four ohm speakers which seemed to really gain steam in the 70s seems like it was not such a great idea after all.

Labtec, I thought of Mac almost as soon as I saw the email from Steve to Paul Speltz. Not such a bad idea after all...