Perhaps this is addressed in the Audiokarma thread, but the capacitance can also be set to zero by setting all the pf switches to off. If you had a cart rated at 100 pf, it might sound best with the setting at zero.
Impedance switches on a Jolida JD 9II
I finally got back into vinyl late last year and have a upper end Pro-Ject turntable with a Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge, which I love. I also upgraded my integrated amplifier to a Rouge Sphinx 3, which supposedly has a decent phone stage. No tone controls on this unit so I was not head over heels with this unit out of the box, but it has grown on me but I can hear the weaknesses in the phono stage.
Six months in I wanted to upgrade the new phono stage. I went with the Jolida JD9II tube pre-amplifier. I already own a Black Ice Sound Expander for my Yamaha SACD/DAC player and love it. So I wanted to utilize that warm tube sound on the turntable.
My question is on the impedance switch settings. I could not find much guidance online. O & M on the Sumiko states if the pre-amp has " has capacitance loading capabilities, a Sumiko high output moving coil cartridges should be loaded with a value no higher than 200pf, and ideally below 100pf."
The settings on the switches are the following.
In Ohms 100,300,1000,47,000
In Pico Fared
47, 100, 150, 220
I set the Ohm to 100 and the Pico Fared to 47.
I am definitely getting more volume at lower levels than with the Rouge but would appreciate more guidance on dialing in this cartridge in more using these settings.
I prefer more bass than higher end.
Thanks,
Six months in I wanted to upgrade the new phono stage. I went with the Jolida JD9II tube pre-amplifier. I already own a Black Ice Sound Expander for my Yamaha SACD/DAC player and love it. So I wanted to utilize that warm tube sound on the turntable.
My question is on the impedance switch settings. I could not find much guidance online. O & M on the Sumiko states if the pre-amp has " has capacitance loading capabilities, a Sumiko high output moving coil cartridges should be loaded with a value no higher than 200pf, and ideally below 100pf."
The settings on the switches are the following.
In Ohms 100,300,1000,47,000
In Pico Fared
47, 100, 150, 220
I set the Ohm to 100 and the Pico Fared to 47.
I am definitely getting more volume at lower levels than with the Rouge but would appreciate more guidance on dialing in this cartridge in more using these settings.
I prefer more bass than higher end.
Thanks,
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Hi, idgmusic64, When I was experimenting with different gain and loading options with the JD9 I found that using a lower impedance setting (higher MC cartridge damping effect) would shift the tonal balance towards the bass frequencies. So the 70 Ohm setting may be preferable in your system. However, loading up the cartridge too much can roll off the high end, so the 100 Ohm setting may be what you need. As for gain and volume settings, a high output MC cartridge pretty much requires using the "LOW OUT" connection because the JD9 has such high gain to begin with. Are you using the +/- 35dB gain setting or the -55dB setting? If you're already at -35dB and still using the lower end of your volume control you could try using in-line resistors to further reduce the output voltage of the JD9 to better match your integrated amp. That way you'd have much more range in the volume control. You could try something like -20dB Rothwell attenuators between the JD9 and your integrated amp. The attenuators plug into the RCA inputs on your integrated and you plug your JD9 cables into the attentuators. I use Rothwell attenuators for a CD player and a streamer/DAC to get a better voltage match with my integrated amp and they work really well in my experience. http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co.uk/html/attenuators.html https://rothwellaudio.16.ekm.shop/in-line-attenuators-2-p.asp I don't know if a -10dB Rothwell or -12dB Harrison attenuator would reduce the voltage enough but you could give that a try first. I ended up with -10dB attenuators that I don't use because they weren't the right values for my integrated amp but your Sphinx 3 is less sensitive (higher input voltage) than my integrated so the lower value resistors might work well for you. Tom |
@tketcham wow! Thanks for the insights. I am currently using the "high out" to my amp. The Jolida O & M states "Hi out: 1,8 volt output to integrated amplifiers or line stage preamplifers." so that is why I chose that output. I will try the " Low Out". With the current settings mentioned above I am getting more "pop" from my records and they sound much more alive. Good natural bass response but with no loss on the high ends and the sound stage sounds expanded and I can hear better separation. I also took the @dill 's advice and went for a tube upgrade across the board. The J9 II will be upgraded to Telefunken 12AX7 smooth plate. The Black Ice to a Telefunken diamond mark rib plate 12AU7. The Rouge Sphinx 3 to French Mazda AU7's, which Brent from Audiotubes highly recommend for this unit specifically. Many of his customers have been very happy with this upgrade. I will go through a wild gambit of music today to road test the Jolida. |
@dill here is an update. I took your advice and upgraded the tubes to 1960's Telefunken smooth plate and picked them up from Brent Jessee, who was extremely helpful. I also spoke with Mr. Allen at Jolida, soon to be called Black Ice Audio, and he suggested I start at zero and have all the settings turned off, including the voltage gain setting, and hear what I hear. I am liking what I am hearing so far but I just installed the new vintage tubes this morning, so I want to go a week or so as these new tubes get broken in and see what my ears like before I make an other adjustments. I also upgraded to a vintage Telefunken tube on my Black Ice Audio Sounder Expander for my Yamaha CACD/DAC player and are loving that upgrade as well. Brent also recommended going to French 1960's Mazda tubes for the Rogue Sphinx 3 too, which I will switch out next weekend. He has many customers who have made the same upgrade on this unit and have been very happy. That being said it's clear that I just went for it searching for that perfect sound. Thanks again for your insights. |
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