If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?


Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room.  Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort

I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful.  Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.

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As many are tired of hearing, I am a resolved fan of speaker’s having level controls.

Speakers leave the factory like a person put on a ship in blinders, no idea where they are going, certainly not going to perform as tested in a foam lined space.

I wouldn’t spend a nickle on room treatments until after I adjusted the speakers in THIS space.

test cd, sound pressure meter on tripod, seated ear height, listening position,

1. test cd with many separate frequency bands, individually selectable, and repeatable, not just sweeps or pink noise.

amazing bytes, $25. (several at historic low prices)

2. sound pressure meter (needs bottom tripod hole)sound pressure meter

ADJUST HOW?

3. I have two L-Pads, simple adjust mid to woofer and tweeter to mid, makes significant difference. Another space, re-do it there.

4. modern, no level controls: I just bought this DBX clone Equalizer in anticipation of results of my upcoming hearing test. Age 75, they will find something!

Amazon, returnable, easy to try, hear how silent it is.

Dual Band 31 1/3 octave frequency adjusters

Zero noise, bypass, ’0’ detents, 3u height sliders have more precision.

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bypass for listening with friends and my presumed hearing aids in

engaged for me, no hearing aids, inverse of what they measure.

Based on my friends experience, simple 3 tone control adjustment from his phone, eq should be a more specific curve

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another use: find better/best positioning and measure results of various toe-in angles as well as slanted back to aim tweeter to seated ear height, and alter initial room reflections

 

Listening Space Absolutely Symmetrical? Doubtful for most I bet.

Just to clarify, AFTER measuring with test tones and Sound Pressure Mic, and AFTER trying tone controls, or dual channel 31 band 1/3 octave equalizer, if problems still exist: then I would consider room treatments.

Like others have mentioned, I have never felt I needed room treatments, current space: somewhat symmetrical, speakers slanted back and toe-in adjusted for tweeter dispersion to seated ear height. (wheels for alternate positions and alternate toe-in

 

Planning for success can make a big difference. I re-worked my office especially for Imaging when working, everything centered on the monitor. Had to weed/discard/move a bunch of files downstairs to achieve it, very glad I did.

Luckily my restored AR-2ax speakers have level controls because left side is adjacent to a wall, right side not. To live without balance controls is something I would never even consider.

Prior Wharfedale Speakers, surprisingly old AR-2ax sounded better.