@wemfan Consider a turntable that has been at the forefront of analog for decades....the Linn LP12. You will find that this platform is not that popular anymore, simply because many folks owned the table back in the day and never had it set up correctly or for some other long lost reason.( but go and listen and let your ears decide!) Nonetheless, the LP12 offers an excellent upgrade path, so you can get into the system ( and that is exactly what it is) with not too much $$ and then bring it up to whatever state you like, funds allowing. Buying a new LP12 comes with the mandatory ’set up’ from the dealer...and once that is done correctly, that set up will last you for years. I think you will not get a better sounding table than the old fruit box Linn. ( particularly at your price points). |
@mijostyn. Your post above needs something added to it....these letters: IMHO.
let me ask you, when was the last time you heard a Klimax level LP12? Or, when was the last time you heard any Linn table...
Let me guess, you either have not heard a Klimax model, or better still, you heard (maybe owned!) a LP12... but it was twenty five years ago, lol.
While I agree with you that the Basis tables are superb, they are generally far more $$ than the Linn. The SOTA isn’t in the league of the Klimax LP12...and the old oil rig you mention...well that is no step up either....oh, yes, IMHO.
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@mijostyn You owned two LP12’s..and tried everything to get them to sound better??? Like what? I strongly suspect the issue you had was like so many other naysayers, who really shouldn’t own a table that needs to be set up CORRECTLY like the Linn--and that is...you never had it set up properly in the first place...and then you tried yourself to adjust it...Yikes!
BTW, how long ago did you ’own’ the two tables? Too bad you have an opinion now that isn’t what many other current Linn adherents have...including myself. BUT, it is an opinion that is far too common...and since your experience in the distant past is not what you liked...then you lump all of your future posts about the table into this experience. Instead, perhaps make a little effort to go and hear a CORRECTLY set up new model with some music that you know...just a thought!!! |
@mijsotyn What you state about how we hear and interpret what we hear is all very accurate. If you happen to hear a table that you don't like, because your musical expectation bias is not allowing you to hear what it is that the table brings, this is also very much accurate...in your belief ( after all, we ALL have musical biases). Doesn't necessarily mean that all folks will hear the same thing. I think that when it comes to the Linn table, there is a consensus that the new Klimax model sounds very good...and is close to SOTA. Whether you personally agree with that is another thing entirely. BUT to come on a forum and post absolutes like you did about the Linn table...without the additional aspect inserted into the post...that this is in YOUR OPINION..seems to me a little over the top.As noromance stated, you were projecting...and not making that clear to the reader. IMHO.
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@jaym759 While Mike ( mijostyn) may be ok giving advice on the Kuzma platform? i wouldn’t take too much heed in what he states about other things, particularly the Linn LP12! He sure doesn’t seem to know his weakness BOOM when it comes to that table, LOL. |
@mijostyn, Mike you clearly know VERY little about the Linn LP12 turntable. The more you post, the more you show your ignorance.
Firstly, the sub chassis has been re-worked over the years to address resonances...the current model utilizes a very damped and specific design that is not only highly rigid, but also non-resonant....which again IF you knew anything is called the ’Keel’. Even the entry level model has a new design that addresses rigidity ( Magik)...and is engineered differently than the original design..which was over forty years back!!
The platter does not ring, why because it is mated to a sub-platter..!
The current plinth ( well current in your terms, although it has been available for a paltry twenty years!) is corner braced...as such there are no issues with warpage...even in climes like sweaty Florida, LOL.
BTW, mine is a non-corner braced plinth...and it looks like the day I bought it ( over thirty five years ago!!) ( True, I don’t live underwater in a sweaty clime)
The current ( again modded...oh- thirty years ago and again ten years ago) arm board is either a multi layer wood/plastic base( on the entry level table), or is now one piece with the sub chassis and therefore made of metal!! ( Kore or Keel). None of this you know, since your last exposure to the table was what....25+years back!! Doesn’t stop you from continuing to post your drivel though...
One thing you are correct about, the table from your long bygone era has been corrected....and it is a VERY different sounding table. None of this you would know, as you prefer to stick with your blinkered opinion.
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@mijostyn Seriously!! You now post what you did to your poor Linn (decades ago) and expect us to believe that anything you state from now on in has any relevance to the ( current or vintage) Linn turntable!!
Folks, if this doesn't say more for someone NOT putting their 2 cents into something that they really have absolutely no clue about, i don't know what does!
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@mijostyn Mike, i’m not trying to insult you, instead I am trying to stop you from disseminating bad/incorrect information in regards to the Linn turntable.
The fact that you have not heard a new/recent version and are relying on past experience, which occurred decades ago, clouds your opinion; but to come on a pubic forum and naysay like you do, really is not acceptable IMHO.
People don’t have to ’modify’ anything about the Linn when they buy the entry level model. OTOH, at least IMO, what is beneficial is that if, or when funds become available, the same turntable can be upgraded all the way to a SOTA platform....how many other entry level tables can you say that about?
This is one of the reasons that I suggested the table to the OP. |
@rauliruegas You have posted a number of interesting and on point posts in the past. Unfortunately, this time your point about the LP12 is not accurate. Once again, we have someone who has not heard a new version of the table extrapolating about what they would expect from the LP12 of yore...given what experience??? I expected more.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I do suggest getting some recent experience ( preferably in your own system and with a Akurate or Klimax model) before naysaying~ |
@mijostyn Mike, you state that you have no experience with the Kiseki Purple Heart and the Sound Smiths, and so you don’t comment on them; yet you also have no experience with a non-vintage Linn LP12, BUT you think it is ok to comment on the Linn????
Please explain! |
@soundermn Don't worry, be happy. ;0) |
