Grisslehamn -
Given your system description, I suggest you look at speakers who's name begin with an 'a'. You can do a search on the Manufacturers Directory.
I side with the group who does not consider Rsbeck to be rude, but more of a breath-of-fresh-air.
Cables (and a certain integrated amp) are where hype, bs and snakeoil surfaces most readily, and after the number of threads you've started on essentially the same subject, maybe it's time to get suspicious of other parts of your system.
You want the voices real close - get headphones (but with AQ cable of course). |
Grisslehamn,
I see in your history that you have begun five or so threads with either this or a similar question. Sorry that it's not been answered for you, but I too think it would help if you said exactly what other components you are using, as well as the type of sound you have vs. what you're looking to have. The people who have responded above are quite experienced, and they certainly could help you achieve your goal with that information.
All the best,
Howard |
Jax2 you a right in a way. Well, since I was just stating my opinion it really isn't a matter of being right or wrong. It's just my opinion. But i also asked for a cable not being warm. Isnt that an easy q to answer ? No, it is not an easy question to answer without knowing what amp and speakers you are using. As Rsbeck implies, different cables will interact in different ways with different systems. These differences may be quite pronounced, for instance if you are using them in a tube based system vs. a SS system, or they could be quite subtle. Marco |
Might you re-position your listening chair slightly closer to the speakers by either moving the speakers further from the wall, or the chair closer to the speakers? |
Jax2 you a right in a way. But i also asked for a cable not being warm. Isnt that an easy q to answer ? |
I do not find his comments rude either as it looks like you post an AudioQuest related post every other week here in this forum. A lot can be told by what equipment you are using and what cables to suggest in your search.. Easy Man..
Chris |
Rsbeck you are a rude person ! I did not find his comments "rude" in any way at all. They may have been pointed, but they were quite astute and to the point IMO, and actually, you may find them to be quite helpful in subsequent responses if you get any. Speaker cables are very system dependent and listing the rest of your system may get you more informed responses, espcially amp and speakers. It is quite odd that folks may recommend speaker cables without knowing the rest of your system. I guess they're just sharing what worked for them, but that is of little help if their systems do not resemble yours in some way shape or form. Marco |
Rsbeck you are a rude person ! |
I dont know if i dare (because there are manny wiseguys around) ?, but i have:
Arcam Dv88Plus (as i use as a cdplayer)
Aq Anacona ic
Arcam A90 amp
Aq Gibraltar sp.cable
And im looking for new speakers that have the same sound as i want w sp cables.
Sincerely
Griss |
I think glider said it quite well.My views are similar.----It's not quite that astonishing to find out everybody doesn't have the same setup / system/ likes and dislikes. but thanks for pointing that out. --The boards are for sharing.-- My stating re. the au24s,ics---is just what happened in my system.--- I think this person could do worse. As we all know the search is 1/2 the fun.---AND-- we just want to share what floated our boats. AND-- I'm all wet and nobody listens to me. My input is worth what you paid for it. I have no agenda;and no over-inflated vision of self-worth. Jeez, just look at the hype at every site;for every product made.--User input has some value. |
IMO the Ridge Street Audio Design Poiema speaker cables and interconnects really help make the music sound alive! |
A bit of background on my recommendations above: I've heard the speaker cables I mentioned over the long haul in my system with two different pairs of high-res full range speakers, four very different amps (largish SS, 300B and PX25 SETs as well as 300B P-P) and four different preamps - SS, tube and passive. The character of the speaker cables has remained both identifiable and constant throughout.
Trying to judge what a particular speaker cable will do in someone else's system, using equipment you've never heard, in combinations you've never heard, in a room you don't know, is a crapshoot at best. IMO, however, the largest variable is the other person's perceptions. Those are truly unknowable, and what sounds lean and forward (or warm and sluggish) to me may be interpreted as dead neutral by someone else - or vice versa, obviously.
I think we all understand that any recommendations here are based solely on the experiences of the recommenders. The best we can do is treat the board as a kind of "Delphi poll" where experienced people contribute personal observations and the final "recommendation set" is formed by a sort of ad hoc synthesis. That's a polite way of saying any single opinion on this board is barely worth the electrons it's printed on, and the best our suggestions can provide is some idea of what might be interesting for the questioner to try for themselves. |
When I auditioned the AQ Mt Blanc w/ DBS, the singers were on the couch with me. These should suit your desires. |
just have 'nuf power and the voices will come forward you |
There's a large gulf between thinking there are no differences whatsoever and
questioning whether cables will make voices come forward, etc. I think it is
interesting to see how people come to the conclusion that they need new
cables, how they seek out info on cables, the criteria used to purchase them,
and I still think it is interesting that no one even asked the guy to list his
system before recommending cables. All just very interesting.
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Rsbeck, perhaps it's because they realize certain characteristics of those cables in their own systems. Just like recommending a transport, an amp, or anything else. They are simply are recommending them to try in the next system.
On the other hand, I think it's interesting that somebody can believe there's no difference whatsoever in any cables.
-IMO |
I think it is interesting not only to see what people believe cables can achieve, but that people can recommend cables without even knowing the poster's system or room characteristics. |
Hey; that's just what ics do as well.(AU24's) |
I should have said TG Audioin the first place. I have yet to hear a better speaker cable. That said, based on the original request I think Pursang might do more of what Grisslehamn says he wants. I find it to be a more forward cable, that errs on the side of coolness compared to TG.
For anyone who asks, "What's your vote for the most natural sounding cable out there?", TG Audio HSR is my hands-down choice. |
Grissleham try TG audio speaker cable. |
Try Argent Audio Pursang or Pursang S. Very alive and transparent, with lots of detail in the mids and kick in the bass. They're anything but warm. |
How do you suppose a speaker cable would achieve this trick? |
