I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.


I just can't clear my head of this. I don't want to start a measurements vs listening war and I'd appreciate it if you guys don't, but I bought a Rogue Sphinx V3 as some of you may remember and have been enjoying it quite a bit. So, I head over to AVS and read Amir's review and he just rips it apart. But that's OK, measurements are measurements, that is not what bugs me. I learned in the early 70s that distortion numbers, etc, may not be that important to me. Then I read that he didn't even bother listening to the darn thing. That is what really bugs me. If something measures so poorly, wouldn't you want to correlate the measurements with what you hear? Do people still buy gear on measurements alone? I learned that can be a big mistake. I just don't get it, never have. Can anybody provide some insight to why some people are stuck on audio measurements? Help me package that so I can at least understand what they are thinking without dismissing them completely as a bunch of mislead sheep. 

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This one jumped the shark and missed the mark. Have fun. Cheers!

We need a shark with better timing, like this one.

All the best,
Nonoise

Look at the little busy body we have here. What lengths he goes to when confronted. No wonder he's been ousted by A'gon mods so many times but has this compunction to keep coming back.

Quoting something from jerry is good for laughs for anyone who's been here long enough. He's accused me and others of similar things and was on his 3rd membership under a new handle when he stopped posting. Maybe he and deluded are related.

All the best,
Nonoise

They will not remove you if you do that. They will keep you and will pile on you. On purpose. Like vultures. They have an official policy (not kidding),  a narcissist procedure of “cat and mouse “ sort of game. They will play you from a position of competence and utmost superiority.

Sounds a lot like what's been going on here as of late. I noticed as much in the style and manner of writing of a few recent newcomers.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

Agreed. That was a great post. Reminds me of the time when I said, on another thread a while back, that it could be that objectivists can't appreciate the beauty and nuances that subjectivists do in musical recordings, or at least, anywhere near their level. That really pissed some of them off.

All the best,
Nonoise

If I had a nickel for every time this topic has come up, 
I'd have a bunch of nickels. 

 

Well reasoned arguments are countered by the ultimate troll.
Who'da thought?

We've been telling him to "let it go" for ages under all his past incarnations and he has the audacity to take our advice and use it as his own.

All the best,
Nonoise

Welcome to the world of "alternative facts" folks. It's been happening for some time now. People with an agenda will resort to all manner of lies and deception to win over the unwashed masses. 

Those of the "measurements are the only thing that matters" crowd have their own agenda  (I don't even want to entertain what motivates them). They claim that measurements are the final arbiter of truth. That there is no higher learning and that it's absolute, nothing higher or better to judge by. Hogwash. 

As time goes on, there will be better ways of measuring and knowing what to measure, instead of relying on some biblical electrical codex, like they were stone tablets brought down from on high. They've framed the argument that way as it's something we can all innately relate to, but it's a very faulty premise. Too bad it's developed as large a cult following as it has but that's human nature: to belong to something larger than yourself, and as we all know, we don't make mistakes, do we? 😄

All the best,
Nonoise