I am thinking of buying the Avalon Osiris.

You guys are all GREAT , what a wonderful hobby to have,
feel the energy of all these great comments.This is what keep me going with Audio and music..I feel proud to be an audiophile.

Mr. Shapiro you know what? they are serial no. 9, 10s. I just met the guy who had them originally purely by accident who sold them to a dealer who sold me the Wilson Benesch Bishops. I just bought XLO Limited Balanced cables from the guy tonight and he told me he bought the Avalons from US and shipped them to Korea. That guy had more gears then me by far, I mean this guy had 5 sets of Goldmund speakers by almost every generation. FM Acoustics Monos, 2 sets of Audio Research Ref 3,MKII preamps, Jadis , Goldmund transports and Kharma Inter Cables ..and list goes on and on.

Wow, I am actually tracing and finding the family root of "THE" Osiris too. There are only few in Korea...less than 20 probably...

I own Avalon Opus just for AV and have not given them enough attention. I regret and I am going to hook them up in my living room to my Krell 650MC monos this weekend see what they can do as well..

All you guys are absolutely correct in terms of the room treatments and tunings. And of course the SIZE .

My living room is not that big but my roof goes up quite high gradually and that is a plus.
I heard the Osiris at one dealer location with Boulder 2050 Monos and A-B tested it with Wilson MAXX2 side by side couple of weeks ago with DCS front end . BTW, They are the different pair from the one I want to buy...remember serial 9,10
No comparison I though the Avalons were so much more detailed and relaxed where the MAXX2 sounded tangled and compressed. Every voice notes and guitar notes were so clear. I am sure the MAXX2 are great ones too, I have also owned WATT PUPPY 6 s for a while but I had a difficult time brining them to full potential.

After that session I felt Osiris were my dream speakers. I heard the Dynaudio Temtation at US dealers and I thought they were absolute as well but I felt they were too expensive for me.

The current dealer wants US$60K for the Osiris. He said he paid 50K US$ and they guy who sold it to the dealer whom I met tonight said it cost him US64K after tax and shipping cost to bring them to Korea. They are beautiful speakers with almost no scratch on it.

I can only sell my Bishops for US$22K so it is quite a jump for me. I was thinking of driving them with 2 pairs of PASS XA200 Monos...?Am I going overboard here?

5 Speaker 1M short Cables I assume I will need to connect
it to the Osiris. More Audioquest Silver cables...

I am just a guy who had passion for these audio equipments since middle school...went on to study Electrical Engineering in collage..looked up to guys like Levinson, D'Gastino, and Nelson Pass. But I felt making money is easier then designing amps...and instead of making a career out of it ..I made it a hobby..so please I am not a dealer ..I will neve be one..I see better systems and far more exclusive system here which is WW .Korea is a huge market for highend stuff as all of North Asia is..I think the reason ? There is really nothing more better to do other than playing golf in a crowded course. !!!

Sirspeedy, give me some advise on room treatments..I think you are so right...you guys are all experts here...

SirSpeedy,

I have read your comprehensive comments over and over again, and I realize that I have been too lazy with room tunings and treatments. And that the process will take years to come, I am just recently tuning the system through various cables. I almost there.

I have tried various combinations, first and foremost speaker cables. Tried Kimber Select 1130s, Audioquest Silver cables SKY, Siltech G3s, Wireworld GE V , Transparent Ref, XLO Limited, and etc. I have come to a conclusion with either SKY or XLOs. I think the AQs provide so much more sizzle and excitements, XLO provide the most balance and detail, wish I had some sort of the combinations of the two. The cables running between my source was not as effective as the cables between Pre Amp and Power Amps. Which really means that the PreAmp does make its interpretations instead of being completely colorless.

Now this process was certainly painful and fun. The room stuff I know is probably one of the most important factors. The dealers in Korea are not entirely professional and does not have the knowledge of installations according to manufacture’s specs. They are just good for lifting and moving.

The marbles in the back of the room was designed to have a PDP Screen without any concern to the music listening.
I agree I should treat them first, as I do I will post pictures. As for bringing the speakers outwards is almost impossible due to space. My room is about 7M by 5.5M. So I am only 4M from the speakers. I could move my system sideways but theat whole side is the window(glass) all over. I may just try that. My roof is 2.5M going slanted to about 4M. The window side is 2.5M and 4M toward the kitchen ...I need a new house!!!

Right now I am negotiating hard for the speakers, I will however exchange my Krells with another pair of PASS XA 200 and try bi-amping ...this is an expensive venture...

will keep you guys posted ...I thank you all of your help and advise your really professional, j

Just asking ? I have a pair of Avalon Opus do you think I should trade them in for Avalon Ascent MKII ?

Thanks,

Hugo

Sirspeedy,

You are right on the cable selections, so I going to keep most of them until the room is set. I think this journey will take quite sometime.

Regarding the Opus, I have just hooked them up to my Nagras, instead of Krells, and they are absolute knock out. I know I bought a pair of these for a reason.
Back in the poor collage days, I heard a pair of Radian and Mark Levinson gear at a dealer here and I was so amazed that I would want to own that sounded just like it.

Now after almost 12 some years, after buying and listening so much I had to try the Avalons. There are a lot of Ascent MKIIs, Radians, Radian HCs here. I almost bought a pair of Radian HCs but I waited to get the OPUS, I had to wait longer for the OPUS Ceramique, and I gave it almost no attention , instead I used it for AV with my Classe Amps. Today before making a huge decision I had to give my OPUS its best shot and also wanted to see what "Avalon" could offer, since all makers have a certain dolor of sound.
I never realized a small Nagra Amp with 50W pure A class could deliver so much for my OPUS. I am listening to them as I write this ...I love it ..I am now really confused..
I am definately selling my Guarneris!!! I think these Avalon can do all the detail, imaging and so much more. In terms of deatil it is quite shocking. Now, the Nagra and Avlon has the same front DCS end but cables and so are not even close to my main WB/PASS/ML system. So I need now to exlore the full potential of these OPUS. Some one tld me to trade them in for Wilson Audio Watt/puppy 5.1..but I am glad I kept these. I have used the WP 6 combination before
with my Krells but I didn't like them too much , too thin and sharp for me.

Now the violin sounds really sweet but just a little bit dull (Not bright), I need better cables....

Osiris, the dealer called me 3 times today..I am pushing back till I finish the exploration with my OPUS. How do I get a little more brightness in my highs...

Sirspeedy ,

Where in NJ do you live ? I used to live in Piscataway and Deamrest for over 8 years...If I get the Osiris I am trading my Bisops. Natural path I think !!

Wish I lived in NYC...

Robert,

Actually, I have not yet !!!, instead I am indulging my self with Eggleston Savyos for now, and a pair of Wilson Benesch Chimera for time being...

I am pursuing it till the dealer gives me a better price,
my front end is ready for Osiris though...