If HDMI is not a must, I agree with Loomis about the B&K AVR's which are seperates-like, very musical, powerful and built like tanks. The same goes for the older NAD T773 which I own and has been trouble free since 2004. Some older(early to mid 2000's) NAD products have had some reliability issues but my experience has been just the opposite, lucky me.
Bill
Bill