How would you desribe Von Schweiket VR-4jr sound?

Rob, Just read this thread including all of your posts. You sound like your ox has been severly gored, however I find little justification for the 'personal' nature of your posts which attack others, including Opalchip. So be it. You define yourself far more than you define others - your choice. :-(

But, in passing, I would ask you to reflect on and qualify one of your statements. Exactly what do you believe constitutes the "truth" that "people" are seeking? Assuming that you can define this "truth" how do you know when you are in its presence? And how do you know that "people" are seeking this "truth"? IMHO most folks are seeking that in which they find the greatest pleasure, but aren't so presumptious as to call it "truth" in any universal sense. Last I heard Diogenes was still walking about with his lamp.

Rob, I was not personally attacking you, I was commenting on your conduct in this thread. There is a meaningful difference. All I did was hold up a mirror for you - you looked and admitted that it revealed an ugliness. If it matters not to you, it matters not to me. If my post offened you, or other Audiogon members I appoligize for not finding a more civil way of expressing myself.

Something else for you to reflect on - consider that generally only folks who have your best interests at heart will tell you when your fly is open. The rest stand about and giggle about how ridiculious you appear and wait for your Johnson to appear.

FWIW, on the original inquiry I have nothing I consider of value to say about the 4Jr's. I've followed their entry into the market place, the initial marketing, the reviews, and the different reactions folks have had to them. I've heard them a few times under unfamilar conditions. I've simply assumed that they are good speakers which may not have risen to the elevated initial expectations some folks may have had for them. This happens often in this hobby. That they would meet all of your expectations is wonderful.

I would agree with you that speculating why any group of folks would be drawn to, or not, any particular sound system, would be specious at best, and I think very few would actually fit into the stereotypical profiles advanced. There are a few audiophiles who listen to train whistles and planes taking off on high end systems as well as musicphiles who listen to Mahler on Bose speakers. I would expect the the total of both would be less than 1% of the Audiogon contributors, and that the majority of us enjoy well recorded music on revealing systems, but can easily listen to music which is less than optimally recorded over these systems when it is music and/or performance which truly engages us.