How Science Got Sound Wrong


I don't believe I've posted this before or if it has been posted before but I found it quite interesting despite its technical aspect. I didn't post this for a digital vs analog discussion. We've beat that horse to death several times. I play 90% vinyl. But I still can enjoy my CD's.  

https://www.fairobserver.com/more/science/neil-young-vinyl-lp-records-digital-audio-science-news-wil...
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Showing 14 responses by clearthink


atdavid
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It's a full time job keeping up with the misinformation being spread "

With more than 375 posts in less than 30 days of membership hear you are doing an excellent job of contributing to the misinformation even if you are correct about 15% of the time.

atdavid
"When You can prove anything that I have said is wrong, instead of just throwing ad-hominems, maybe I will take your posts seriously. Until then, you are just bloviating in the wind.


"You have repeatedly and consistently shown to be factually wrong and materially deceptive in many posts. You have only been hear a short while so it is easy to review your posts and identify those where you are in error I understand why you are uncomfortable with you’re mistakes being so frequently disproven and rendered uselss but as I kindly pointed out you are correct about 15% of the time!
atdavid"The whole basis of the claim of the article is a misrepresentation of the timing aspects of digital audio. This is caused by the author not understanding digitized systems."

This is a telling and revealing remark from this user who by all appearances, indications, and demonstrations is somewhere "on the spectrum" as it is now fashionable to explain and who relies on scant slivers of knowledge often gleaned from frenetic Google searches to then issue claims, pronouncements, and declarations based soley, exclusively, and singularly on these incomplete understandings of basic, fundamental, elemental mechanisms.

atdavid
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That 324 is an erroneous interpretation of if we scanned our eyes over a field of view but out brains do not really work that way."

This claim reflects a simple, basic, fundamental misunderstanding or ignorance of the very essential nature of vision but the pronouncement and declaration is consistent with this poster's habit and practice of issuing proclamations intended to be received with an air of authority but which in actual fact and practice are no more than misguided conclusions derived from a few slivers of fact gleaned from Google searches.

mahgister
Atdavid "you persist to reduce to a simple translation in a simulation model the hearing processings in the body-brain sensors(including more than just the 2 ears) a process more complex, that implicate more synchronized continuous mappings than in one Shannon simulation channel... Then how can i say my point that is invisible to your fixation ?"

There is not much you can do to help him understand the matter is beyond his limited understandings which are acquired mostly from Wikipedia so he can not even ponder, develop, and articulate a coherent, reasoned, logical response but if you point that out he will say something illogical such as "you don't like handicapped people" or "French toast is better than "fritters." 

atdavid
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Nothing in my reasoning was exposed, no ignorance shown, or misunderstandings sufficiently wide for even your limited understanding to squeeze through."

I know that you have badly hurt feelings and I will try to be more caring and gentle with you in the future I can tell that you are a very sensitive timid individual but some of you're assertions are so extremely mistaken and erroneous that it is difficult to sound neutral when correcting them. 
atdavid"And what is your psychological issue clearthink? I am going to go with Borderline Personality Disorder A person with borderline personality disorder (one of the most common types) tends to have disturbed ways of thinking, impulsive behaviour and problems controlling their emotions."

This is most striking, impressive, and revealing! You have obtained degrees in electronics, the law, and now medicine all from Wikipedia, and you still have time to post hear, threaten, harass, and intimidate other users all to conceal that I have hurt you're feelings by exposing you're "phony science" theories and proclamations. You'll be gone from this group soon the moderators will not long term abide by your nonsense.


glupson
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What spectrum were you talking about in your "on the spectrum" statement"

English is not my first or even primary, main, or dominate language and I was trying to politely refer to those hear who appear to be on the "spectrum" which I am told but could be mistaken is a polite way to refer to anyone with autism or Asperger's or similar syndromes. It is readily apparent to me that there are regular contributor's here who are on the spectrum and I do not mean this as an insult in fact many such individuals are very smart! In fact my company employs several hundred engineers in various of it's divisions and I know for certain that some of them fall under this group and they are excellent contributors to our work! if there is a more polite way to refer to this population in American English I would be grateful to you if you could please explain.

atdavid
"And what is your psychological issue clearthink? I am going to go with Borderline Personality Disorder"

I urge you to seek prompt competent, experienced, compassionate medical care it is obvious that you have become obsessed with my superior intellect, technical knowledge, and linguistic skills and you now have lost the ability to control you’re impulses, resulting in these relentless attack posts that you think will ease you’re pain and suffering but which only serve to further isolate you from the human contact you crave. A combination of various medications, interventions, and treatment protocols are likely to be effective but they can only be prescribed, monitored, and adjusted by a professional medical doctor.

I am sorry to be forced to say this because I do not want to hurt you’re feelings any further than I have but if you continue this pattern of behaviors I will alert the moderators to you’re failure to observe the group’s standards of use.

atdavid
"Libellous statement. Either back in up with facts, or take it down. If you want to address something that I specifically wrote, go ahead, but try to act like an adult and stop the personal attacks. Also, don’t try to hide the fact you used a slander"

ha ha it looks like you got your law degree from Wikipedia or maybe Perry Mason also you are confused about the nature, basis, and definitions of libel and slander so good luck with your case!

It is not for you to limit, restrict, or discourage posters and contributors to this forum from sharing, expressing, or explaining they’re thoughts, observations, or opinions and regardless of you’re opinions or threats.  

One of Bob Carver’s salesmen also threatened me with legal action which is something American’s like to do when they are hurt and seek to have someone held accountable for they’re personal pain but of course he never followed up and for the same reason that you won’t/can’t follow-up on your threat which is just a hollow effort at intimidation, harassment, and bullying.

I know that my revealing the flaws, errors, and misunderstandings in you’re "scientific" reasoning has hurt you’re feelings and sense of self-esteem but these will likely recover and as I have already explained to you now that I realize how sensitive a person you are I will attempt to be more gentle with you in the future I do not want to hurt you in any way but of course I am free to expose you’re "malpractice" of science (I don’t know what else to call it!) whenever you commit one of you’re "arguments" based only on what you studied at Wikipedia University.



atdavid
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Yup, definitely OCD as well ..."

I feel very sorry for you, you're hurt feelings, and whatever disorder you suffer from. You seem unable and/or unwilling to relate, communicate, and discuss with me without engaging in vile, ugly, demeaning personal attacks and my patience with you're dysfunction is now exhausted so I have alerted the moderators, dear sir. 

atdavid
"Keep making these posts clearthink. With every single one you show that you have absolutely nothing to add to conversations"

Your feelings are hurt, little American snowflake but they will recover in time because you are clearly "a very stable genius."
atdavid"Nope, no hurt feelings at all."

It is good to portray a brave front when your feelings have been so badly hurt but it would be a good idea for you to talk them over with someone you trust such as your mom or teacher you will feel better I promise you!

atdavid
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clearthink, IF you are going to *** Attempt *** to troll me, which is exactly what you are doing this morning with your posts, you may want to pick up a few relevant degrees and 25 or so years of R&D experience."

I understand that you have become chastened, embarrassed, and uncomfortable because you're "reasoning" was exposed as based on two pillars of fact that were widely separated by a ocean of ignorance and misunderstanding sufficiently wide to pilot entire fleets of ships through. I can only recommend that in the future you expand you're research from relying only on Wikipedia to more authoritative, comprehensive, recognized original sources because your own direct knowledge while it does include some interesting and sound facts is woefully incomplete and scattered. In the interim period I will try to be more gentle with you should I need to correct for others you're misunderstandings and confusion I now realize that you are very sensitive and probably timid person who's feelings are easily bruised.