Thanks Swampwalker.
See, Tvad. I was right. IIrc. |
Tvad ...you kill me. great stuff.
IIRC = Irespective to Internal Rate Comparison... silly. |
No.... that would require an affidavit and a shrink. |
Good point no one had made yet John. Thanks. |
Thanks Tvad
Swampwalker
You know that is a fine point you made. when shippnig comes to mind USPS does not. I use them for much if not all of my little things. Never have I even thought to enlist them as carrier for something large.
I will next time for sure, slow is better than NO.
My greatest curiosity revolves around numbers. My own experience I think is a poor scale overall of those issues surrounding buying, selling, and shipping. using those experiences exclusively, ALL my less than good issues have been solely in the latter area. Shipping and/or receiving.
I've yet to have a payment issue, going or coming.
I have had 3 incidents during transportation or surrounding transportation. One overcharge, two breakages. One coming, one going.
The overcharge took about 4 months or so to remedy. Fed Ex did in fact reimburse me the overage. I in turn reimbursed the other party accordingly afterwards.
Given only my personal (not business) experience, I'm in the neighborhood of 7% for ALL shipping results in a problem. the numbers of course aren't truly representative, as the scale is so miniscule. I suppose also as ALL of my issues have been with Fed Ex, yet not all of the sending and getting were done with Fed Ex, thus that figure is likely to be greater. Gee, I never realized that until now. Hmmmm.
So.... just where does one call for USPS rates anyhow? Only online?
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Tvad, good point... you have a knack for stating the obvious.
naturally no one in the habit of conducting business properly should think a mere statement will support value otherwise than can be established appropriately.
My hastely put point was about the 'insurance' monicker attached to it. Look at the ads for sale... shipping and insurance are the costs of the buyer'... or so it's said in as many words.
That word insurance, leads me to feel i have some protection that simply is not there in fact. i sought to put out thinly the diffs one to another for all to see... or think about and no longer cling to some 'pie in the sky' assurance which for all intents and purposes is going to be ultimately and likely determined by a transporter eventually, or a court ultimately.
Just pointing out some deep waters revolve about 'declared' value and 'insured' value. I see them as completely different. |
tvad ...all you have to do is use the Fed Ex online 'ship page' and as things add up in your Fed Ex acct. the shipping price will come down accordingly.
Raquel those 'criterium' have been in place now for some time. tony, my BAX rep called me nearly every month, and my question always was the same, "raise that declared value yet? shipping speakers yet?
Sadly, the reponse was always "Sorry, no." "Is that all you ship? would sometimes be added. "Yes", was always the answer. I'll continue to trust the govt. with tubes, cables, and odds and ends. Besides, a pair of ICs strapped to a pallet just seems wrong, and you all would stack something on top of it probably, thinking it was empty.
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Most all of anything I sell I will prefer a CC or USP MO. The Pay pal option for me is a last resort. Only if there is no other way to consummate the deal, then I would accept it given the funds placed into my account, then are allowed to transfer to my bank thereafter.
It is my understanding that there is a phone number with which a U.S. Postal M.O. can be verified. It’s on the money order itself. The verification info number is also online at the USPS website. It is busy a lot though.
Same thing with a cashiers check… one can call the bank of origin and determine authenticity. Naturally, I’d seek the phone number of the orig bank via means other than the check’s own info… for if the check is bogus, then too would be the contact info most assuredly. If the number is constantly busy, that too would be a red flag.
So a simple phone call, if you feel a concern or just want to feel better immediately, is all it should take for verifying legitimacy of the instrument.
I get nervous when someone rushes me to sell to them, or buy from them… regardless the fashion of payment.
Whether or not PP fees are included in the sale price, or tacked on, makes no difference to me as a buyer. I see it the same way as a seller. If “OBO” is in the listing, it’s all negotiable. Right?
Personally, I see the shipping aspect as more the chancier endeavor than the payment. There is far greater control in the funds transfers for both buyer and seller than is in the shipping exercise by far.
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One noteable aside here for everyone posting here, and it was previously menntioned lightly above... Once. it may be just semantics too.
It is my understanding now, not before this thread began, that once all the money is handeld suitably by both parties and all that is left to do is have the merchandise shipped, at that point how many are aware that a "declared value" is not insurance?
I've noted many, myself included approach this additonal charge by a carrier as insurance. I've even had some carriers refer to it in the past as such.
I feel as I stated previously this portion of doing business, 'the shipping portion' is far too overlooked and no great light has been shed upon it as being equally important as is tranferring funds.
Given the responses thus far it would seem to indicate the largest amount of folks here see payment as more the important factor in completel;ing a deal.
I've had IMO great luck while shipping and recieving things personally. Over 40 times I've either sent or gotten sent to me, items that have arrived safely. Only twice has anything abnormal occured.
Thought I'd throw that in about a discerned value and it's differences from those of insurance. Doesn't that seem odd to anyone else? All this time I thought i was paying for safe sledding coverage... I wasn't. it's only a simple statement and an extra charge for it. |
Raquel
"Anyone who ships a lot on Audiogon should open a commercial account with a professional freight forwarder such as BaxGlobal, as they have real insurance and expertise with high-value goods."
You may want to re-check your facts, or at least update them as they pretain to Bax especially.
I have an account with BAX GLOBAL... or I did until recently. Not only will BAX not provide more than $500 coverage, regarless the actual value, they will not ship loudspeakers or high end audio components.
My agent told me they were trying to make changes to those regards, but as recently as about ten days ago or less, they told me they wouldn't ship either a pair of speakers, or an audio amplifier... further, if they were allowed to do so, the only 'value' that could be declared was the $500.
I consequently closed the account at that point. have they changed to now shipping such items less than two weeks later?
Tvad yes BAX will deliver to residential, and yes there is a charge... and for stairs too. Best bet is to just go pick it up at the terminal... if you do use BAX.
the way 'round with the other main dogs is going online and doing your shipping there. As a shipping label is then produced by your printer a pick up for it is also set. I found it a little tricky but it can be done. I just did exactly that when I sent my speakers out wwest recently.
BTW... all went well. I think it helps to have an account but I'm not sure.
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