How cheap can you go and still be happy with the sound?

@waytoomuchstuff... +’something significant’...;)

When banging the rocks together to improve and/or creating (some may say ’cretin-nating’, but they just don’t....."....well, never mind...").

’Something pleasant to move the task along’ covers a lot of my need and desire for ’decent audio’, when involved in a non-audio ’fo-cussed foray’....

DLH ( ’Difficult Listening Hour(s)’ ) is when you’re ready to ’git down ’n In To’ that which taps your toes is a whole different activity....

...esp. when you’re rubbing your forehead from that launched wrench that bounced off a surface and returned with a vengeance....

True story, that....wrenching on a Triumph Spitfire with a cantankerous bolt....

I pick my unintended targets more carefully since...like the object itself v. random uninvolved.... ;)

@waytoomuchstuff ... Triumph=British=metric;

Although I've no reason to believe that the car had it in for me...

No more than anything else does..

@waytoomuchstuff....ah....*faraway stare (further than the usual space....)*
I remember well the Alpines' and their 'Twin Peaks' taillights....

Those got clipped in the Tigers...."That's why they so Mean" and nobody wanted to change the plugs when the 260 was hot.....

Back when, the convo was on the relation to the 'Q ships" of WW2.....

"Looks innocent enuff...." followed by it handing you yer butt and whatever was left...

No doubt, still fun to drop the mic on the unwary or merely stupid....

Hey, can I be understood if I 'talk Normal'?  (Well, for moi' anyway....)

Nutz 'n boltz 2:

Prior to Spitfire, owned a 69 EngFord Cortina....new. for cash... longer story as to how I could 'do' 1.978$ out the door and into the endless SoCA streets.

When I met the 'spous' to be, she'd bought a Ford Fiesta hatch, 1st Gen in US trim...  One day, both side by side for a common oil/filter routine....

Same engine, but the Fiesta spoke German backwardsdrawkcab
180 plan flip....but some didn't change, those that stayed the same...

"That which you should Change Early & Often,,,"  Uh huh..."Praktische." 👍

Both stick, fun to drive in their own fashion....both metric....🤷‍♂️

@waytoomuchstuff.....or SAE or MilSpec for that matter....(got to take a pass on the latter. being 4F....the 'F' not totally being involved, except in regard to the 'potential of activity', the formula for which you are no doubt Very Aware of.... ;)

'CO' waivers at the last minute are a real PIA, regardless of actual 'site issues' (front v. back, that sort of alignments....)

...and fortunately, 'threading' doesn't apply, either....😏

@emergingsoul....replace the tape with rubber bands and a device swap, and I've been there, developed an entire new vocabulary to cope with it..... *wry Grin*

@lubbertp....I've applied the various accoutrements of analog and digital means to more lackluster spaces to overcome their weaknesses and downright in-built flaws (ever have a 10' cube of a space to cope with? 
Hint:  You won't need a sub....you'll feel like you are IN the woofers' enclosure....

Mix a drink without having to stir it....how novel.... 😣

....always seemed to miss out on  having a space that even vaguely sported dimensions that would  be 'kind' to an audio field....

'Applied surround' Walsh speakers of my diy efforts have beckoned as a response (pun not intended, but there it is....), as one is 'IN' the sound field as opposed to 'looking/hearing into it'.....

Think 'acoustic hot tub'... I play about with front v. back pairs, tiny delays between...  Walsh, in and of themselves, don't seem to 'play louder' since they're 360 v. 180 or typically less in dispersion patterns.  If one wants 'loud', add more drivers in quantity and matched qualities....

MHObservations..... Since you've no means to duplicate this, you or any would have to darken my stoop and demand a seat with a view and brew....

...and so far, y'all have avoided this like the Covid.....for which I've had all my shots, and ones' that aren't on the Rx....;)

Fosi stuff....I get their emails, with some intrigue involved..... all mine in mind, but so what's new 'bout that....*s*

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Once upon a evening dearie.....

When the original Tripath chips were intro'd, there was a mfr. that debuted a series of early D amps...both 2 chan and mono's....that could be mounted into a separate chassis (there were 2 sizes of which, I think....'out of memory' in that detail...).

Missed out on that; but since, D has grown into a mini-Godzilla that has begun trampling on 'phile tropes since....and will continue unless extreme measures and measurements of 'beauty kill the beast..."

...beguiling intro...?

....following sea of loud 'n proud...

....from a pointed head rendered blunt..... ;)

That concept of an 'amp farm' has occupied me since, and into the use and application of distribution amps.

Decent enough specs for all but the esoteric 1%.....

6 discrete 2chan amps, each either buss or individual.  Each can be mono'd, or can drive 4 separate speakers....minding the ohms, Holms....:)

Each has L&R level and delay control for the 2nd tier of speakers....

Fronted by both room and signal eq options than absolutely needed, but came with and applied judiciously....

Be interested in your thoughts on the Foci'

Meanwhile....

...still.....😔

@immatthewj ....and I will basically agree on some levels of the pursuit of the 1% (and narrowing) 'level of perfection achievable currently'...

Given ones' level of 'a proper space/venue' for ones' equipment, the qualities of the played media(s) with the choices of said equipment driven by taste and the depth of ones' credit/cash/or the contingencies of outright theft....Atypical for the bulk of A'gon associates for the latter, no doubt. ;)

Based upon what I've read here and elsewheres'. there would seem to exist almost a variant of an 'event horizon' in terms of the apparent responses of a given set of equipment in a given space occupied by a very special pair of ears that can apprehend what's being experienced..

It would appear that to experience this 'edge of the probable' one will need very deep pockets and a near degree of absolute silence over working towards and achieving this goal to some degree....

Owning ones' own manufacturing facility would be a plus; one that is very profitable to allow the research and the creation of the 'space to play within' ought to be in parallel with the former....

And then...keeping the lid on what you've done.

A Saudi prince would be the most likely suspect to do such.
One just has to be of that societal group to do so.....

I'm certainly not, so I'll just continue to wade through the sludge I tolerate....😏

@gigabit, agreed on phase and phasing proper, which ought to be easy; one needs to ensure that any sub being run is in phase as well.  Any sub worth calling it one should have a switch to reverse such....

Tweeter heights should automatically be the same unless a disparate speaker array is underway.....odd to note, but I've not experienced everything in all circumstances, either...🤷‍♂️

The 1/4" distance comment is a bit daunting for any species to pull off, however.

My cats can do that, but I'm not so motionless.  I suspect I'm not alone at that, but can stand to be corrected....
If one has the cinderblock chair with a molded seat, back, and head restraint could make that work....straps optional, I hope....🤞

"The house is on fire!"

This Opus is nearly complete! I'll be outside in a moment!

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