How best to eliminate LP warps


I own about 2500 LPs, and I like to think they're flat.  Furthermore, I espoused the view that warped LPs ought to be discarded.  But lately I have found 2 or 3 of my LPs that do have warps but sound too good and are too precious for the music recorded on them to throw away.  So I am in the market for ideas on how to remove warps.  I am aware that there was a device on the market that looked like a large waffle maker, to be used for warp removal.  I think Furutech made it, but I never see it advertised these days.  I am also aware of the DIY method of placing an LP between two glass plates and heating the ensemble.  The question there would be how hot and for how long?  Any suggestions are welcome, especially opinions on the efficacy of the Furutech.  Thanks.  Please no comments on vacuum hold down; I think it's a great idea but none of my five turntables has that feature.

lewm

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 I got more fussy about warped records when I doubled down on record cleaning methods and noticed how many records don't lay truly flat on the platter- using a Monks, rather than VPI, RCM. I used the Vinyl Flat for a little while, it could work, but time consuming and very few benchmarks for time and temp-- I used an early one with a Groovy Pouch™ and single temperature-- some people got orange peel from either overheating or over-torquing the nut or both.

I eventually bought an Orb- a Furutech branded DF-2. I'd say if I guesstimate duration of heat cycle correctly based on type and severity of warp and thickness of the record, I have a roughly 85% success rate, which I consider pretty high.

Some records, even when "de-warped" will not be playable--the groove takes a bend where the warp was, and flattening it does not put it back "on track"---

Why so many warped records? I buy a lot of used records, many from the early '70s- period of much change in jazz--and a real low point for vinyl in the States, as everybody knows. I found a seller with a stash of Nathan Davis records on Segue- bought several from him, sealed. Pressed on the thinnest vinyl imaginable- makes Dynaflex look like a truck tire. Did get these flat but I watch my linear arm hunting and wandering--the record is out of round. Which makes me pause when you consider how expensive cartridges are today.

Replace the record- maybe-- I've certainly bought more than one copy of some records in the quest for a better copy (condition, surface noise, etc.) Some of these records are not so easily replaceable. 

The machine has, for me, paid for itself. 

Oh, I remember asking an online seller to confirm a record was not warped. He wrote back saying "you'd have to be an idiot to sell a warped record on ___." Guess what? (It wasn't a hard to find record). 

There was a period where the Furutech DF-2 was no longer being shown on websites. I had the impression Orb had discontinued it and Furutech was no longer carrying it. Within the last year, I noticed a bunch of Furutech DF-2 units for sale- new. Price is higher now (big shock). 

It is pretty idiot proof, doesn't require rings and my experience with it--say 8 years- has been nothing but positive. I don't know if retailers have some wiggle room on margins here, but worth exploring. There is an even fancier Orb - the DF-3- which has additional features. One person I know who has an old Orb and the DF-3 found the latter to be less than optimal. I have not used it.