How are you hearing no difference?


In my experience, I've never heard two pre-amps that sound exactly the same, nor two DACs that sound the same, nor two amps...etc. Yet, occasionally someone will claim that they heard no difference between Product A and Product B in their system.  I find it difficult to believe.
4hannons

Showing 2 responses by bigkidz

You have to ask yourself, what makes them different.  For example obvious SS vs tube sound.  Then what are the caps and resistors used.  Power supplies.  I have mentioned this many times, the Counterpoint line is an example, the basic preamps use 1 6DJ8 tube, the next model up 1 6DJ8 per channel, then as you go up the line separate power supplies, tube regulation and tube rectification, so you get the picture.  If you are comparing similar designed components then they may not sound exactly alike but maybe not that different also.  Again tube vs. SS sounds, Class A and D designs, OTL and DHT designs, see where this is going?  If you only compare preamps that use 6922/6DJ8 tubes with similar designs, they may sound different but maybe not as much of a change that one may be looking for.  Probably better trying a 6SN7 preamp to see what that would sound like in ones system, etc.

Then there are people who can change the sound of a component with modifications, that can be as simple as better power supply caps, swapping out resistors with Vishay, caddock, shinkoh, swapping out other capacitors with V-Caps, Jupiters, Duelands.  And then there is adding filter chokes, upgrading transformers, etc.  These simple changes may change the sound to more what you are looking for, plus once you hear what these changes accomplish, this can then help you understand each design and what changes make a component sound the way it does in comparison..

Happy Listening. 



4hannons 

Some very good points made here. I take care quite often to have a friend come help blind test; I also compare over time, and get my wife's "golden ears" opinion until she gets annoyed (humor).

I understand and agree that certain components will sound similar, especially DAC's. I've had to do some very careful listening to reveal the smallest of differences. On one occasion, the difference was so slight, it came down to a two second section where I could hear a difference of a faint bongo beat that DAC A presented with more percussion than DAC B (about the 6:56-58 mark on the song "Morning Mist" performed by Ahmad Jamal). 


IMO if you have to have a friend come over, or take more time then there is probably very little difference.  When I demo one of my products, if you don't hear a dramatic difference within about 30 seconds, then take it out and be happy with what you have.


Happy Listening.