How are VTL's power amp ?


just wondering how do the 100-200 watter VTLs compare to the likes of CJ, AR in that power range ?
CJ can be described as romantic sounding, while AR's are very detailed, solid state sounding. How's the VTLs sound ?
nolitan
VTL's amps could be described as somewhere in between the CJ and ARCs. They sound more romantic and have more "Tubey" sound than the ARCs but they are also more detailed and have more upper end extention than the CJs. I listened to all of them when I was getting ready to buy my first tube amp and decided on the VTL ST-150. It hit the nail on the head for the sound I was looking for. I also liked the Rogue gear. I found the Rogue to be somewhere between the VTL and ARC sound but closer to the VTL.

Cheers,
Jim
Desmondjim is right on. I once tried a ARC vt-100 mk2, it
sounded too much like a transistor amp to my ears. The VTL's
seem to have a much warmer midrange and a nice top end. My
300 mono blocs do have real bass, again alittle warmer than
competing arc's. The bottom line for me is the VTL's sound
more real and less like hifi than the ARC did. I am using Apogee stages, so your results might be different.
Hope this helps Bob
I agree with Bobspeak here..Before I purchased my VTL rig I listened to mucho ARC products. And none of them sounded like Tubes to my ear. Once you listen to VTL you really look at ARC alot differently. Not that they are bad, just much closer to a transistor amp/preamp tonality than a VTL reproduces.

For my ear, its VTL all the way, and the only thing I have heard that is more musical is Shindo. The buck stops there for tubes IMO.
I heard a VTL ST-150 driving a pair of Wilson Sophias at my dealer's and the sound was fabulous. I could hear pinpoint imaging of instruments, even separation of a bass guitar and bass drum on the direct-to-disc LP that was playing. I also heard some VTL S-400 amps driving some Wilson MAXX2's to great effect. I certainly wouldn't call VTL's latest amps' sound a classic tube sound like that of Cary Audio or older C-J, but more neutral like that of neutral-sounding solid state amps with more dimensionality. I had an ARC VT-100 Mark III amp, and I would agree with the above posters that it was probably less romantic in the mids and a little quicker than the VTL, but IMO the newer VTL designs are state-of-the-art sonically.
"I certainly wouldn't call VTL's latest amps' sound a classic tube sound like that of Cary Audio or older C-J, but more neutral like that of neutral-sounding solid state amps with more dimensionality."

Spot on!
You are getting accurate response descriptions of each brand. If you want a little more tubey, the CJ's have been doing it well for a long time although their newer stuff is much less so than their classic/vintage equipment.I can't speak about ARC due to limited experience there but personally I love my VTL 125 monoblocs for all the reasons described above; musical, natural, very dynamic, reliable... I could go on. Bottom line is there are a lot of very satisfied VTL owners, for good reason. Good luck.