I use the original Star Sound sistrum stands beneath my mono block amplifiers and their Apprentice platforms beneath all other components and speakers. Their effect is splendid and truly improve the sound quality. I consider them mandatory in my system. They are exceptionally cost effective IMO. Charles, |
Schubert, I will say that Herbie's were the exception to the rule, they are the best of the soft compound products in my system (by a wide margin). They were out performed by the Star Sound Audio Points regardless of the components compared. I could confidently recommend Herbie's as an example of a good soft material product. The Apprentice platforms move you into a higher realm of sound quality. Charles, |
Tbg, I have also heard tales of Agear's room as well, urban myth or reality? 3 years and still no pictures😊. Charles |
Roxy54, I agree that no one is being attacked, we all have our differences based on listening experiences. In my case I've used sorbethane/soft compound products and also Star Sound brass points and then their Apprentice platforms. No comparison in my system, the soft material products were clearly inferior. Two very different tiers of sound quality quite honestly. No doubt however that opinions/outcomes will vary.For me it was an easy distinction to hear. Charles, |
Textreme, Yes, this audio endeavor is overwhelmingly subjective in nature and I just assume an open forum such as this will reflect that point. We can only report our personal impression/experiences and recognize there will contrary opinion. Charles, |
Maril555, I don't doubt your listening impressions via Star Sound products, you heard what you heard in your system. I'm unaware of any product regardless of review/reputation that has achieved 100% consensus/agreement, never happens. Too many system and listener variables to contend with.
There was a thread on this site in the past where Still Points and Star Sound were compared. Although the majority who tried both preferred SS, some preferred SP, THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME. I haven't experienced the tonal problems you encountered, different ears,room,componrnts etc.The best one can do is try a product for themselves and listen to it in their system. Outcomes will vary as expected. Charles, |
Maril555, I would have a hard time saying that any audio product is devoid of some level of sonic signature. I do understand and appreciate your experience and impressions. All I can say is is that in regards to my system and individual components the Starsound products have been a significant plus across the board, tonality has been improved in my opinion not hindered. The natural tonal richness and harmonic overtones were revealed in their complexity and beauty. I have little tolerance for added brightness, I do seek improved openness and transparency and this is what I have found with these products. Sometimes equally experienced listeners will simply have different outcomes and sonic impressions in their respective systems. If I heard the same brightness that you described, I would have quickly gotten rid of these products. Regards, Charles, |
Nice examples Andrew. All three of those brands employ different approaches as you clearly point out. Each one certainly has their camp of strong/loyal advocates. At one time I came close to buying the SRA product(never heard it). It may have worked very well in my system(who knows?). I'm very happy with the Star Sound approach. |
I suspect the builder and designer of the SRA poducts would not have imagined someone actually cutting the expensive product in half, interesting findings to say the least. |
Hi Wolf,, You have stated that you have worked quite frequently with jazz musicians and I'm a deep admirer of that genre of music. I'd be very grateful if you could direct me to some CD jazz recordings that you have engineered. I'd love to hear some of them. Thanks, Charles, |
Tbg, We have a few system products in common. I use the Tripoint Troy MK II and a High Fidelity CT 1U Digital cable with much satisfaction. I'm very happy with the SS Apprentice platforms as well. So I find you enthusiasm for the SS Rhythm platform very intriguing. They're a lot more expensive so if I were to buy them I'd likely begin with them beneath the speakers. Well something to think about. Charles, |
Hi Tbg, Just to be clear I'm in no way disappointed with the Apprentice. I've long acknowledged that regardless of what you currently own there's always something better. My comments were to express relative to the Apprentice platforms that the Rhythm must be something quite special. Believe me I have no new found dissatisfaction with what the Apprentices have added to my system. Charles, |
Agear, Regarding Wolf Garcia I really wanted to hear his work and perhaps discover some jazz artists unfamiliar to me. I just have to assumed he has his reasons for not providing some recordings to share with genuinely interested folks here. Charles, |
Okay Wolf, I understand now, live venue work rather than studio sound recording as an engineer. I was very curious to hear your finished product (recordings). |
I don't know what particular "spikes" Art was referencing. Over the years I've use a variety of spikes and cones. The brass Audio Points were in a different class of sound quality, just plain better. I believe that the quality of material, manufacturing and engineering is what distinguishes one product from another. They can't all be grouped together as if they are all the same. Charles, |
T ramey, Star Sound is a no nonsense high quality company. I'm glad the Rhythm platforms worked out so well in your system. |
Andrew, Have you discussed with Robert the differences between the Rhythm and Backstage as platforms for your speakers? I haven't spoken to Robert in some time but I know he's quite proud of the Backstage as a supreme product. Perhaps the Rhythm comes close for less money. I suspect both are terrific platforms. Charles, |
Hi John (Roxy54), I've found Robert to be very candid about his product's hierarchy. I was very pleased with using their basic brass Audio Points. He said the Apprentice is a clear step upwards and he was right. I believe it simply becomes a matter of individual cost ceiling/budget restraint. Given Robert's track record, I suspect the Rhythm and Backstage are that good. I'm very happy with the Apprentice, so I don't lust after the higher tier platforms at this time. I don't doubt their quality. Charles, |
John, Sorry about my response to you. I thought your comment" he's a fan of too many things" was in reference to Robert of Star Sound rather than C. Perry. My apology. |