Brianmgrarcom what i mean to say is don't believe everything you read. refer to a review on the hovland in the latest issue of the "ABSOLUTE SOUND" where the reviewer says "hovland is the best" but this review is questioned by Mr. Steve Neshan in the letters on page 13.Then Mr. Braverman ,the "professional audio critic" defends his "OPINION", should add questionable to that. if i am spending $6k, i want my money,s worth. JADIS has a reputation for going beyond the ordinary ,not more ,but "MOST bang for the buck". Barnes refer to a thread on 1-29 01 by Pgleekel and go the the post by Rayhall ,he talks about his experience of hovland. as for me i,ll never believe everything a "professional" reviewer says, the old proverb "grain of salt" best applies here.