Is this thread serious ? Enjoy ! MrD. |
As I have said many times on various A'gon threads, Klipsch were always designed with a particular price point in mind. My favorites, the original Heritage models, designed by PWK, were always, imo, and ime, great designs, but unless they were " fixed ", of their shortcomings, they might not have won you over. To respond to Eric : set up correctly, they can " disappear " as well as any other design. However, imaging and soundstaging are not the attributes that I enjoy most about them ( although, it is definitely icing on the cake ). I will not go into them here, as I have spoken about it so many times before. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy ! MrD. |
kosst, I would love to have both of our sets in a room and do a shoot out. You can pick the equipment, the music, anything. Anytime....Based on what other complaints you have stated in other posts, imaging was not the biggest negative to you when it came to horns. So stating your agreement with George is false. However, it is nice that you and George can agree about something. Miracles do happen. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Duke...…+1...……...folks like kosst who still have not heard an excellent example of horns in a home environment, will troll the entire concept. And, when we speak of what we hear, with passion, they assume we are suggesting perfection. We all know perfection does not exist. Another thing, we, the horn folks, generally do not go on other threads bashing other speaker types, which believe me, I ( we ) can easily do. Enjoy MrD. |
This thread is dead. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Mapman, is there a Klipsch Lascala series iii ( 3 ) ? I cannot find anything about it. Kosst, I suppose you brought this thread back from the dead. I am glad you got to hear a pair. Did the Lascalas you heard share the room with other speakers ? The best showrooms I have appreciated are those that demonstrate single pairs by themselves, particularly with larger speakers. Other speakers sharing a room will " play along " with the connected pair, and this effects the pair you are listening to. You should all know by now, I am an old, longtime Klipsch fan, specifically the 5 original Heritage model designs, by PWK himself ( including the newest iterations ). I never claimed perfection, but have always stated, that they do so many " musical " things correctly, that for the money ( with some mods, tweaks and careful room set up), imo, and with my experience, they are hard to beat, and, they are so easy to drive. Enjoy ! MrD. |
kosst, I implore you, as well, to listen to that Miles recording, through your F5 / Focal 936 system. If you do not hear compression, then I question your hearing ability, or your audio knowledge of what compression is. I cannot say it any other way. Enjoy ! MrD. |
120 db spl ? Are you kidding me. You think this is why I like horns. Again, clueless. I compare systems to live, unamplified music. The further you are from the musicians, the less specific the image is of the location of the performers. 50 plus years of listening, using my ears, experimenting and setting up all sorts of gear ( home and pro ), being on stage, behind the stage, in studios, and, more homes than I can count, I am happiest with what my modified, updated and tweaked Lascalas, and what they present to " me " ( especially at the ridiculous low cost of them ). That is all that matters. There are so many aspects of sound, related to music. Arguing and discussing this back and forth is ridiculous. I am glad you guys have found your areas of happiness. Enjoy all ! MrD. |
George, you can't be serious ? You truly believe that an ESL does not change / exaggerate the image size, and that it is the only design that can show the head movement of Miles. Contrary to what you believe, you are mistaken. However, to each his own. I suggest you listen to that Miles recording I spoke about, and please, get back to me. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Remember, George is just a man, with just an opinion. I respect his judgement, as I respect his knowledge. We all hear differently, and, at least us old timers, want certain attributes and specifics in our systems. I was attracted to horns, not because of imaging or sound staging, but because of their ease, their effortless, dynamic quality that allows music to flow, like live unamplified music. I certainly hear an image created, a stage being presented, music being created, without boundaries, extending beyond every and all of the walls of my speakers. However, I feel this is not the essence of music. What is the essence, is the musicianship. Take a recording like " A Tribute To Jack Johnson ", by Miles Davis ( the original release ), possibly my favorite of his vast library. Two studio sessions, one recorded on 4 / 7, the other recorded 11 / 11 of 1970, brought forth the amazing arrangements of M.D., along with five other fabulous musicians. Want to hear synchronicity at its finest, play it through a great set of horns. Either your system will, or will not, keep up. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Kosst, To each his own. I am not sure you wrote want you really wanted to say. In your latest description above, you gave Kudos to what you heard. Besides, I am not trying to dismiss anything you say, nor any opinion you have. Early on when we first communicated, you indicated you did not like the sound of live horns, as well as many other live instruments, which was interesting to me, as you, and other members of your family, played instruments. I understand the fact that you prefer hifi sound as opposed to live sound. Your last statement is amusing. Again, enjoy your dynamic speakers, as I will enjoy my horn speakers. No need to continue on this path. It is all about the music. Enjoy !MrD. |
