just buy vmps subs. i don't think yule come anywhere near the sound for the money, even if ewe build 'em yourself. no, i have no association w/vmps - yust a wery satisfied customer. this is one of the very few audio products i bought new, cuz it was still so much better than anything else, even at used prices. of course, i *did* get the dealer to give me a little break on the price... ;~)
doug