High Performance Audio - The End?

In case ELAC's website does not come back soon, check out Canton's Reference K series for more of a coolness factor to spill here.

"Audiophools will only get down on their knees and bow down in respect when they see a high price tag."

Straight from the person who is using really expensive amplifier to run the best speakers on Earth and has bought some of the most-respected, and far from the most affordable, speakers in the past. What do they call such people? Converts? You know, those who discover the opposite of what they used to be and then strongly argue their cause against all the other sinful souls.

"Either way, the only reason it was discontinued was because Elac Germany didn’t want A. Jones’s concentric driver designs taking over their ’higher end’ offerings (a.k.a steal their thunder). They had many of their pricier offerings with the JET tweeters to sell. They also forced him to do something with a JET tweeter (Carina? whatever). Goofy move."

That is quite some insider's knowledge of ELAC's business practices. Member of the board of directors? Chief Operating Officer?

"Time and time again piano crops up when evaluating the authenticity of any playback system, as does listening to live unamplified music."

In my case yesterday, playback system helped me evaluate the piano. It reminded me that it is time to tune it.

I listened to my new record yesterday, new to me as it was made in 1950s. I compared it with piano behind me. Record won.

deep_333,

You, kind of, asked, I answered.

I paid more than $80 for those speakers and did not flush them down anything. They went high up.

I wish you best luck in picking your speakers next time. May I suggest Debrox?

Still fantasizing about my speakers' designer?

deep_333,

By "By now, we know..." I meant that by now some of us have read your posts and relized that you do have very vivid imagination. We almost got worried it is sliding into illusion, delusion, and hallucination territory.

The Pioneer speakers I mentioned were, in fact, two different models. One was https://www.stereophile.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs41-lr-loudspeaker which I had not heard by the time I quoted this review to a friend of mine. He went on to buy a model up (floorstanding) with inscription A. Jones on the back, too. It was to be a guarantee of performance. My friend is not the one to change equipment often, closer to barely ever, but within a month those speakers ended up tucked behind some door never to be connected again. They are still there. Out of curiosity, I bought this speaker from Stereophile review. We thought that bigger model might have simply been inferior to standmount so it was cheap enough to compare for fun. They were donated to my mechanic’s garage, sitting high up under the ceiling. Admittedly, we did not try those speakers with tens of thousands of dollars equipment, but that is probably not what a designer would have expected when designing them. In any case, I do not doubt that Andrew Jones is a good speaker designer and I did hear two pairs of TADs (standmount and floorstander, I do not know model designation) that sounded wonderful. I believe he designed them, too but may be wrong. It is just that his venture into very low price speakers was overwhelmingly underachieving even for that price. Somewhat older and similarly priced Infinity speakers were a few galaxies above them. That Stereophile review is to a degree exactly 180 degrees away from reality 

deep_333,

"@glupson, i can only imagine which genius designed your speaker! (Tee hee) "

By now, we know you have very vivid imagination.

"When i stop by my doc’s house..."

In old days, doctors would make house calls. These days patients do house calls?

"But, you can give a genius like Andrew Jones or Eric Alexander very little money and he will come up with a genius grade speaker"

I have heard inexpensive well-regarded Pioneer speakers designed by Andrew Jones. They were not worth $200-300 asking price to me.

As far as Tekton goes, we already have two Tekton Moab threads which is about two threads more than they deserve. They may have their clientele that is enamored with them, but "genius grade speakers" is taking that infatuation a little too far.

"...overpriced Wilson, AT and D'Agostino..."

Just because one cannot afford something does not mean it is overpriced.

Sound by Singer experience might have been different at different times, I guess depending on who the salesperson there was at the moment. I stepped in a number of times and was allowed to browse and listen with no intention to buy. When I came to buy something, the man told me to look at it through the window on the door of the listening room.