High Infidelity


I’m unapologetically old school. I own rather than lease my car and not because I think it drives better that way. I own my music and not because I think it sounds better than streaming. I’m puzzled as to why it’s cheaper to buy a CD, have it shipped home and rip it rather than downloading it from a popular digital audio store. I’m disappointed that artists who bypass the CD process seem to only offer MP3 downloads. But I digress…

I recently purchased music for download on Qobuz. The website identified the download as CD quality 16 bits, 44.1 kHz. The downloaded files turned out to have varying bitrates between 756 & 938 Kbps rather than 1,411 Kbps. I contacted Qobuz through their help messaging. They thanked me for bringing this to their attention and stated they would request a corrected copy from the record label. They unfortunately could not give me a timeframe as this would be up to the record label.

I requested a refund on the basis that I purchased CD quality tracks for immediate download per their website description and the prospect of potentially getting them at an undermined time in the future was not acceptable. I was told that Qobuz does not provide any refunds on purchased music in any circumstance. There are no exceptions to this rule. I asked to speak to a supervisor but my request was denied.

I’d like to get feedback on:
-     whether others have encountered downloads that weren’t as advertised or if this was truly an exception
-    what you think of their refund policy
-    any possible recourse

Thanks
 

rpmpam

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rpmpam

The website identified the download as CD quality 16 bits, 44.1 kHz. The downloaded files turned out to have varying bitrates between 756 & 938 Kbps rather than 1,411 Kbps.

Are your downloaded files in FLAC format? If so, those look like lossless compressed files that are full 16/44.1 resolution.

rpmpam

... very good question but no, AIFF 

AIFF is a lossless file format, full 16/44.1 resolution. You got what you paid for.

Either free or I’m out.

Wow, it's a tough crowd here.

I still buy music. I bought the new Stones LP because I have all of their other studio LPs. I'm a fan. I think the LP sounds better than the download (which I also bought) and better than the stream that's included with my Qobuz subscription. Maybe it's all in my head.

I'm a big fan of a young Australian band called the Seven Ups. I buy their stuff on Bandcamp as a show of support, and I've bought a few of their LPs, too. Similarly, when I hear local live music, I'll almost always buy the artist's CDs if they're offered.

I have a few friends that are working musicians. I buy their CDs when they're available.

I stream. I play downloads and LPs. I still have cassette and reel decks, too. There's never been a better time to be an audiophile.

... If it sounds good while I am listening... I am happy ...

Same here! For me, enjoying the music is the #1 goal of all of this.

bipod72

At the end of the day, chalk your purchase up to the price of listening to your favorite artists. Think of your lower res copy like a vinyl copy that someone on discogs over-rated as M/NM instead of the VG it really is. 

The OP @rpmpam already stated that he download AIFF files - those are full lossless 16/44.1 resolution. He got what he paid for and hopefully understands that now. This thread should really be closed to prevent perpetuating this claim against Qobuz.