High Fidelity Sound Speaker

"I'm about done w audiogon,, what was a  wonderfil place to talk high end audio has been invaded by folks who have no interest in real high fidelity."

Happy New Year indeed!

Thank you csmgolf. If it was perfect, why is he always changing the formula?

So much for 2 driver full range! Love the way the tweeters are mounted!

"Stick a fork in it, its done."

Sadly, you're never done. Still fantasizing that speakers with crossovers are going to just go away. I wish that you would.

"I would not trade in my FR for any xoverlowsens speaker in the world."

I told you that you'd say it again!

Thank you audition_audio, well said. I would add though that I think that this has been an especially arid period on audiogon, and I love to check in on this thread for entertainment. Always some kind of absurd unsupportable hyperbole from mozartfan. 

Hey mozartfan,

Why don't you use some of all that money you saved on a decent pair of cabinets?

Sorry audition_audio, I couldn't resist.

mahlman,

Agreed. He is entertaining.

"Horns might be superior, but there is all sorts of requirements to home a  horn system."

Wrong. (as usual) 

csmgolf,

You wouldn't be happy either if you were listening to drivers half-screwed in to those mismatched chatterboxes he's using.

mozartfan,

It has nothing to do with how pretty the cabinets look, it's the way they perform that matters, and yours are poor performers.

Good point acresverde.

He makes up his own stuff...but he's actually serious.

audition_audio,

I agree with you, but you must admit that he's pretty amusing.

Why dual woofers? Well let's just say that I think that he knows a bit more than you do about speaker design. 

Well congratulations Mr. Bache! You have a new partner, and he has already told you to pare down your lineup as well as what you need to do with whatever speakers are left. I'm sure that he can also save you money on cabinets as he doesn't believe the looks or construction of them to be important.

Amazing...all of this great advice to a man with a successful company from a guy with a cobbled together system that changes every week! 

"The xover cult club ignores my beliefs, my researches, my discoveries."

Of course they do, because of your slipshod crackpot methods.

Well, here we go back to where we started. You espouse the virtues of FR and denigrate multi driver speakers with crossovers, and then finally admit that they can't do the job by themselves anyway. (which we all knew)

You'll probably counter that by saying that you're not using a crossover with the Seas Excel driver, but then as we also know, that has its own problems.

In the end I guess it doesn't matter. All that matters is if the end user is pleased, and it's apparent that you're not too picky and are easily satisfied.

mozartfan,

No sarcasm here, just an honest question. If the FR drivers are so good by themselves, why would you need to use the other speakers with them, especially when they have a big gaping hole in each one which will of course undermine the performance of that mid woofer? Isn't the idea of the FR drivers that they are Full Range?

I think that they're leaving you alone because this is more of a private diary speaking to yourself than a discussion. I read it, because your claims of "Major Discoveries" with those broken down cabinets are really amusing. 

The monologue continues...

mozartfan,

Why don't you just keep a diary? You would get about as many responses.

"FR has no such flaws that YOUR speakers have."

No mozartfan, except that your FR drivers will reside in a F'ed-up cabinet. They won't stand a chance.

Ignorance is truly bliss sometimes, so I say...be happy!

tomic601,

Yes, you are probably right about that. It's just funny that about a week ago h e was thanking his wife for providing the resources for the "project", but if there are no new cabinets, it would seem that the budget is about zero.

Say what you like, but if the cabinets are a mess, and don't even match, you will not get good results. There are pre-made cabinets available you know.

mozartfan,

When you spoke about this new project I never imagined that you planned on using those same cabinets! Come on now, if these drivers are as good as you say they are, don't they deserve a proper cabinet?

Besides, you know that everything works as a system, and the cabinets can undermine the performance of even the best drivers. If you are going to use these long term, it is more than worth it to give them proper and identical cabinets.

mozartfan,

Will it have a real cabinet with veneer and screws for all of the holes on each driver?

dht4me,

Were you able to translate those prices into dollars? I'm not understanding the price list at all.

You're not alone desktopguy.