@xp200dr - Purely for curiosity sake what comprised the reference system that you stopped enjoying?
HiFi satisfaction and/ or Musical enjoyment
Have you ever asked yourself if these are the same or different objectives?
For me I had an epiphany after over 25 years of chasing perfection that enjoying music is different than owning the best hifi gear. This happened when I grabbed an a used Pathos integrated, BS Node and Forte IV for my second system in my open floor plan.
I found myself listening much more to my 2nd system and nowhere near as much in my dedicated treated room with a reference level system costing >25x the price of my downstairs system.
After I realized my behavior I began a self assessment:
A.) Lower expectations are more easy exceeded
B.) The system is less resolving therefore average to poor recordings are still enjoyable
C.) I listened to entire tracks or albums that I wanted to listen to vs what sounded the most impressive on my reference HiFi system. Damn it is nice to listen to the music that you love.
Does it matter how you become satisfied with audio reproduction or just that you get there?
For me it just matters that I am happy and if I can get there with modestly priced gear and in this economy be subject to far less of a depreciation hit… hey that is a win win.
Below are a few other things that I learned about “my” preferences
1.) I prefer high sensitivity large speakers due to their ability to create realism (no replacement for displacement)
2.) Paper cones over any exotic materials
3.) High tech cabinet materials are great but I have no issue with properly braced MDF or plywood
4.) Wide dispersion designs (look for Klippel data on a speaker that you are interested in and see the horizontal dispersion)
5.) Soundstage scale and tone take the cake for me… throw a huge stage due to #4 above and nail tone and we will call it a day
So what did I do about this Audio crisis of mine? Sold all of the HiFi gear and grabbed some Cornwall IVs and some used gear to drive them at a fully depreciated price. Are Cornwalls perfect? Nope. Is any speaker? Nope. Screw it I am now a man free from HiFi BS and listening to music.
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I have 4 different audio setups...living room, balcony, upstairs bedroom, main bedroom. They all sound different and I like that.Chillin out and listening to different types of music on different systems, is what I always wanted and now I'm lucky to have these set ups.But I also have enough equipment for more set ups ,and I mean alot more.I really do have to unload so equipment So my daughter won't have to.lol |
In my experience there is a fine line between getting that "you are there" sound and crossing into fatigue and brightness. I've also learned for myself that the source is tremendous importance. Enjoyment of music is my goal and it's taking less shiny stuff these days to make it happen, but if I hit the lottery could easily go in the other direction again :) |
This forum is for sharing audio experiences period so excellent first post @xp200dr and welcome to the forum! And I agree paper cones, high sensitivity speakers and tubes are what makes me happy. So I think you're on an excellent path and now just enjoy the music! |
"I found myself listening much more to my 2nd system and nowhere near as much in my dedicated treated room with a reference level system costing >25x the price of my downstairs system." Having perused the OP's online data the ">25x the price" would seem to be utter BS as the OP has been seeking/buying "used" components in the $500-$6,000 range. 25 X the new/fave setup (valued @ around $8K) would be $200,000.00 or more. I agree with what some of what the OP says, but I disagree with the BS nature of the post. DeKay |
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