Hi-Fi Fuses - SNAKE OIL? - or something in it?


There's a lot of chatter about the benefits of those high prices gold plated fuses with silver conductor etc. etc. all over the web and the consensus ranges from FANTASTIC!!! to much more subtle observations.

It makes sense to me, epseically in light of spending lots of $$$ on good power cables, that having a skinny piece of aluminum conductor in a glass tube (i.e. a cheap fuse), in the power loop would be detrimental to the performance of the components.

I decided to revamp my DIY power supply I'd built for the Cambridge Audio 640p phono stage and DACmagic in order to test this out - and since it's a DIY project there is no UL Certification to void.

First, I bypassed the fuse link completely to confirm there would be an improvement and give me the best benchmark to compare against - YEP - BIG DIFFERENCE - much more this, that and the other :-)

So then I started looking for hi-fi fuses - WOW!!! - talk about pricey.

Two fuses for the power supply was going to cost $120+ AND I thought I'd probably have to buy a better quality fuse block to make the most of those fuses.

Then a moment of enlightenment - most power supplies and conditioners are protected by pushbutton breakers and not fuses.

I found breakers of the required current rating and installed them into the power supply. I imediately noticed that there was no deteriation in fidelity when compared to the same unit with the fuse link bypassed - GREAT!.

On reflection, the fuses I had in place were rated at 3 amps - so they use a pretty thin fuse wire in them. If I had used a fuse of a higher rating, i.e. it uses a thicker conductor, then I believe that there would be less of a difference between the fused and bypassed implementations

SO - do the expensive fuses work?

Well the empirical evidence out there would suggest they do
- I do know the cheap fuses are not good!

I know bypassing them does improve the sound - a lot in my case
- BUT THAT'S NOT SAFE FOR ONGOING USE

I know breakers work as good as bypassing the fuse
- BUT MESSING WITH A POWER SUPPLY VOIDS UL CERTIFICATION - NOT GOOD!
- FYI a couple of licensed technicians I know WILL NOT change the design of a power supply at all.

I believe the amount of benefit is related to the fuse rating
- but don't go replacing 3 amp fuses with a 20 amp fuse - that's not safe either.

Whilst looking for fuses I discovered AMR Gold fuses priced at $20/fuse.

Now that's definately more affordable than most others at 3-4 times their price.

One supplier I know of in the US is Avatar Aacoustics

If you have had experience with quality fuses please share - especially if they are "modestly priced" i.e. $20-$30 per fuse. And please provide a source :-)

Also, can anypne confirm that Slow blow fuses are better than regular?

And Remember - IF YOU AIN'T LICENCED - GET A TECHNICIAN!

Many Thanks
williewonka

Showing 13 responses by rodman99999

Everything regarding power is incremental. Dedicated lines, conditioning, outlets, cords, IECs, fuses, rectifiers, filter caps, regulators, etc. The benefits of upgrading my fuses were quite obvious, though no fuse holders were changed. When I can find fuse holders, that offer a significant step up in conductivity/construction(metallurgy) and don't require any radical changes to my equipment to install; I'll consider them. Why would I deprive myself of the added pleasure, derived from the HI-FI Tuning fuses, while waiting for holders that may or may not ever be available? I may as well remove everything else that I have upgraded, regarding power(according to that philosophy). BUT(like you said), You each his own!
Mr Mental- My entire system(CDP, phono stage, preamp, monoblock mains, woofer amp) takes 12 fuses. That's only $720.00(minus the 12% Frequent Flyer Discount I get from The Cable Company). Less than I paid for my last power cord, less than a third the cost of my last interconnect and the expense was spread out over 12 months(did everything a stage at a time and analyzed the differences). I hardly consider that expensive, when weighed against the improvements to the system's presentation. Every piece of gear that I own, is heavily modded and the simple/easy tweak of these fuses, is icing on the(overall) cake. Why would I by spares, when I haven't blown a fuse in years, can get a replacement in two days and listen with a stocker while waiting? Happy listening!
@Lacee- I believe it was Ivor Tiefenbrun(founder of Linn), that was quoted as having said, "If you haven't heard it; you have no opinion." Of course; that was just his opinion. BTW: Having already upgraded everything that you mention in your previous post(except my tube sockets); I'm still trying to find those upgraded(metallugically) fuse holders.
If I were using old Marantz gear and Altec speakers; I wouldn't worry about fuses either.
For one that is accustomed to working on electronic gear; installing an IEC socket, and upgrading the internal wiring, is no big deal. I've performed the job on a number of ARC preamps, and a few brands of older tubed and SS power amps. The differences in performance were consistently dramatic & positive, per the owners(myself included). That's with an upgraded PC as well(of course). Most high-end pieces(old or new) already utilize high quality transformers.
Mr R: Spoken(typed) as a true Litho-cephal. Perhaps it escapes you; virtually everything, as related to electricity, is referred to as, "theory." That would be because nothing has been actually observed on the quantum level, as yet. NOTHING, regarding Electrical Theory, is yet set in stone(except, perhaps, your head).
Aren't you glad that English skills have absolutely no bearing on one's aural acuity or electronics aptitude? =;^)
I've used this stuff for decades, with great success: (http://www.emsclad.com/examples/emi-rfi-shielding.html), puchased here(page 14): (http://www.percyaudio.com/Catalog.pdf) Looks like production has stopped on it though. I guess I'll be using the Stillpoints sheets, for the next projects.
I have an unfortunate(cramped) home listening environment, that requires my equipment to be arranged in a cabinet/rack, one component above another(shelved). I'm using sheets of TI Shield under and/or above every component, to block emissions. I've also surrounded my power supplies, when feasible. I bought mine from Michael Percy Audio, who then supplied 12 X 24 and 12 X 48 inch sheets.