HESITANT with NEW member sellers


I seem to struggle too frequently with members who are NEW, no history at all, but who seem to have beautiful systems, excellent taste, and are offering very reasonable deal on a very high end piece of audio equipment. 
I have passed up on "mint" Thiel speakers and "mint" REF6 Audio Research due to my fear of being ripped off. 
Is there protection built into AUDIOGON? Has anyone had experience with that?
I prefer Pay Pal, in hopes that they would provide protection...I believe they do..but the same sellers want cash or check....I am HESITANT. 
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Showing 2 responses by calvinj

I almost got scammed about 11 years ago on a car and the sad bar is I am a lawyer.   My ears perked up only because of what I do for a living.  About 6 years ago a guy from overseas tried to run a scam on the sonus faber speakers I wanted. He had pictures up.  I asked him why they were listed at such a low price. He could sell them locally and get more. 1. Price is a red flag. 2. I asked him to take them out of the box to re photograph.  3. He wouldn't saying the were in the crates ready to ship. 4. I looked at pictures in the photo and go the serial number.  Googled it and realized that he has stick photos from the sonus faber warehouse.  I saw them in images. Lol. 5.  He spoke in email in very broken and bad English.  6.  He spoke in scammer voice. Lol. 7. He tried to direct me to offsite email. 8. Tried to have me pay by bankwire not PayPal.  9. I told him that if he went to Dhl office and boxed speakers there he said he was too far away.  Lol.  10. Tried to give sob story.  11. Didn't want to talk by phone.  12. Had a low audiogon rating.  13. Recently opened an account. 14. His only transactions were small and recent. Couldn't tell me specific things about the speaker.  Typically they pick a well known product and reduce it more than 65percent.  Typically they are overseas.  15. Googled the overseas address and it came up as a hospital.   Lol.   Those are just 15 tips to start.  They try to take photos with no serial numbers. They try to take 2 or less photos. Usually from the top down to lower your suspicion.   They hate PayPal. I got more but my fingers are cramping. Lol. 
Just be careful. Don't allow yourself to be redirected offsite. Wire transfer is risky.  Also watch the misspelled words of the product.  Lol. 30k speaker and scammer couldn't spell.