Help me pick one of four music servers/streamersreqi


Sorry about the sloppy title; can't edit it, fat fingers.

On a tight budget, but looking to take my digital playback chain up a notch.

Current system is Vortexbox appliance to router via ethernet, wifi to Squeezebox Touch to older modded Beresford DAC (max 96/24) via S/PDIF coax, RCA analog out to preamp. Sounds very good, all things considered, but I know I can do better and modernize. Plus will soon bump up against the 1 TB hard drive capacity in the VB appliance. I use dBPoweramp on a networked laptop to rip CDs, and a network attached Sweetvinyl Sugarcube SC-2 to rip vinyl. I also plan on subscribing to Roon. Since I will not run an ethernet cable from my router, I will be using a powerline extender to provide the ethernet connection. I hope it will be sufficient; it works fine with the Sugarcube. I am not really interested in any resolutions beyond 24/192. I have a Qoboz subscription, and want to add a radio function to it (still can’t believe it doesn’t have one). Roon will do that, I believe.

Here are the top contenders, all under $3000, with some pros and cons. Some of these options will necessitate the purchase of a USB-capable DAC. For that, aside from the $3K max, I am looking at a Schitt Gungnir (opinions on the DAC welcome as well, but the $1300 price is my absolute max). This must be a turnkey solution, as I am at the ink and quill level technologically.

1. Roon Nucleus with 4TB ~$2250

Pros: Well-regarded, Roon core, silent, affordable. Drive is SSD, can output to a USB DAC directly

Cons: No DAC, no internal CD ripper. Not sure if I can rip files to the internal storage drive via my networked laptop.

2. Innuos ZenMini Mk3 with 4TB with LPS power supply ~ $2550

Pros: Internal DAC (not sure of quality), Roon Core, carried by a local, trusted B&M dealer

Cons: Reputation for drop outs and frequent required restarts, internal drive is a less reliable spinning HDD (I have heard the difference a SSD can make for file playback), Gapless playback through analog out?

3. Lumin D2 - no internal drive - $2300

Pros: Good reputation for Sound Quality, Internal DAC, Gapless playback, can use with current backup HDD until I need to move to a larger one.

Cons: No internal hard drive, not sure it is a Roon Core, will have to purchase external SSD for file storage when I get near 1TB.

4. Melco N100-h50 with 5TB internal drive $? 2TB model is $2100, so I assume 5TB still comes in under $3K.

Pros: Good reputation for Sound Quality and easy user interface, can output directly to USB DAC, Roon Core (?)

Cons: May be the most expensive in the group, still requires a USB DAC

Not looking to get flamed here or ignite a flame war, just valid opinions of experienced users. Open to other brands provided they meet my requirements, especially price ceiling. Thanks in advance.
bondmanp

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@ everyone above... Thanks! I should have put the SGC package on the list.  I originally started out with a VB appliance from SGC in 2011, and was pleased, although I did have a HD failure about 4 years in (thank goodness for backups!).  I would probably go with their package of the i5, Ultra Rendu and linear power supply, continuing to rip via my laptop (which I did even though the VB appliance had an optical drive).  With a 4TB SSD, it is selling now for $2514.  Of course, it will require a USB DAC.  It does seem, though, that you cannot skip the network if the i5 and Rendu are next to each other in the rack.  It seems I would still have to go through ethernet.  That means I will need an ethernet switch to expand my 2-port ethernet powerline extension adapter.  Added expense, especially if I want a high quality switch.
@david_ten I have only heard good things about Wolf Audio.  But equipped as I need it, their entry level price is a budget buster.
@grannyring  which Innous do you own?  Are you using their LPS or Phoenix reclocker?  Thanks.
@fuzztone...  I agree with you on the DAC.  Please explain what you mean by "something you can do yourself".  Do you mean assembling your own computer based music server?  Or simply spinning CDs?  I am curious.  I know some find music library management software to sound inferior to physical media.  In some cases, I am sure it's true.  But that hasn't been my experience, and I love the convenience.

FYI, I lack the time and the knowledge required for a DIY server solution.  And after 10 years of having my music at my fingertips, I can't imagine going back to hunting through my CDs to find something I want to hear.
First of all, thanks to all who offered help.

Right now, I am leaning towards the Small Green Computer package of i5 Transporter, Ultra Rendu and LPS.  It is cost effective, Roon core capable, but can run without Roon.  SGC's USB to S/PDIF adapter means I can take my time selecting a new DAC.  I can easily add my own SSD without opening up the server.  And since I currently use a Squeezebox Touch, the learning curve shouldn't be too steep.  The kicker was SGC itself recommended a cheap Ethernet switch, so I won't initially have to drop $400+ on a switch.  I will keep this thread posted.
Well, SGC's cheap USB to S/PDIF adapter is no longer available.  I am not dropping $400 on their remaining adapter just to keep using my old DAC.  The Sonore Tonedac is $300, but I haven't been able to find any reviews on it.  It is returnable, so I might roll the dice.  The Schitt Gungnir that I was hoping to get takes 6 to 8 weeks to ship if you want it in black.  A dilemma.  I might just order the Schitt and hold off on the server until I get it and take the measure of how it sounds.