Headphones vs speakers….


So I’ve been patiently waiting to buy the final pieces for a Benchmark HAB2 and DAC3  system. I have the Totem 1 speakers and decided to hook them up to an old Naim Nait 5i (probably not the best pairing) and Cambridge Azur 840C CD player. Over the last few months I’ve been on a quest for great sound through headphones  and a headphone amp while I’m waiting and after maybe five sets of headphones I’ve found what I was looking for and I’m very happy.

After hooking up the Totems and Nait today I’m very disappointed. However, my room is far from treated yet - I have installed a large carpet, furnishings and will be hanging thick floor to ceiling curtains on the three walls - one behind the speakers and two side walls. However, wether I’ve been spoiled by the incredible sound of my headphone setup or I’ve been expecting too much from a full system  I can’t imagine after room treatment and dialing things in that I’ll be anywhere close to being as impressed as I am with my headphones…..do any of you guys feel this way or am I being too pessimistic?

 

thomastrouble

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@thomastrouble I would agree with you but only with 1 brand of headphones. I have the Benchmark stack like you, in-fact I had an HPA4 preamp but sold it when I heard another brand and I realized that I was no longer interested in regular headphones. I sold the HPA4 and bought the LA4 later, after a merry-go-round of preamps.

If you want to have headphones that sound like your 2-channel gear. Most likely way better than most 2-channel gear, do a demo of the following:

  • RAAL SR1b earphones (these are unlike headphones)
  • RAAL VM-1a genius level tube headphone amp, ONLY suitable for 2 RAAL headphones, SR1b + CA-1a
  • RAAL Star8 Silver cable (or RAAL SR728 cable)
  • Benchmark DAC3

The above is my very best "2-channel" system. I am getting a KEF Blades 2 Meta with a CODA #16 amp. I do not think it will beat the above gear in most sonic attributes. The floor stander will definitively have more drive and power that you will feel in your bones, but the RAAL will have a more intimate sound, like you are there with the performers. Just incredible what the RAAL guys have accomplished.

I said I would never go back to regular headphone but I wanted to hear what RAAL could do next. If you want a regular headphone system that is not like 2-channel but a real amazing rock and roll headphone. Demo the following:

  • RAAL CA-1a headphones
  • RAAL VM-1a
  • RAAL Star8 Silver cable (or RAAL SR728 cable)
  • Benchmark DAC3

Some cheaper amp alternate to hear these 2 phones are the following:

- Schitt Jotunhiem R (for RAAL Only, $299 clearance sale)

- RAAL HSA-1a solid state headphone amp

- Benchmark AHB2 with a warm DAC and Benchmark speaker cable*

- Peachtree GAN1 ($1400)*

* requires a RAAL amp adapter box ($700)

The Peachtree 2-channel was the second best amp I have heard with the RAAL’s, after the VM-1a. I used to say that the Peachtree was a 8.5/10 vs the VM-1a, a 10/10. However, I may have to push the GAN1 down a bit more after hearing the Star8 cable with the VM-1a. I have not heard the Star8 cable with the GAN1.

The soundstage in the RAAL SR1a is like 2-channel not like headphones. That is the one of the beautiful aspects of the sound thorough them. Checkout this review below where the reviewer says he disliked the SR1a because people laughed at him and that they did not sound like headphones. 2-channel people should really hear these because a perfectly optimized SR1a is hard to beat with a 2-channel speaker system.

(3) What's a RIBBON headphone? RAAL Requisite CA-1A Review with Resolve! | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org

 

@thomastrouble Since you like the Maggies so much I would suggest the LRS+ with a KEF KC62 sub. I have this setup in a small room with a Sanders MagTech amp. My preamp is the Benchmark LA4. I would not use the Benchmark AHB2 with the LRS+.

The PeachTree GAN400 ($1500 used) is rather good with the LRS+ but the MagTech is better.

The LRS+ setup is sonically very similar to my RAAL SR1a earphone setup. I turn off the LRS+ system when it gets late at night and crank up the SR1a system.

I sold my RAAL VM-1a headphone amp to raise some money. I found out that the $800 RAAL TI-1b amp interface can get me to 90% of the VM-1a using the expensive CODA #16 amp. It is not quite as good with the PeachTree GAN400 but close. The VM-1a is so amazing that getting to 90% of that is still great sound.

I hope to get a Class A Schitt Aegir 20-watt amp today ($800) to hopefully rival the CODA #16 with the SR1a earphones + TI-1b interface.