HDCD Question....

Phasecorrect, my sacd/dvd-a has 24/192 DAC but does not say it is a HDCD player. My processor has a HDCD symbol on it. When I play a HDCD output PCM the HDCD indicator on the processor lights up. I also think HDCD's sound better than SACD's on my system because of the analog only output required by the high-resolution manufacturers (although i will admit that some of the dvd-a discs with a 24/192 stereo layer are pretty impressive). I apologize for the rambling response but it appears to me that if you have a HDCD chip somewhere it will decode a PCM stream. I can't till if it works with the players DAC output analog.

ALso...my SACD/DVD has a 24/96 DAC...does this mean any 24/96 CD/DVD will playback with this resolution? I have seen some titles on elusivedisc.com...so I am curious...

Does anyone do "mods" on SACD players to incorporate the HDCD 20-bit chip...or should I not waste my time?

You guys think MicroSoft will do something with HDCD?? I assumed they would pulled a Harmon International...ya know, buy out the competition.

Mdominick, you're right - Good catch. I remember them doing so but I guess it slipped my mind and I expect Jeffcott's last conclusion is correct as well.

1 correction T Bone...Microsoft bought HDCD technology. Never heard why they did, but maybe to phase it out in favor of their proprietary Windows Media Files. I would not count on HDCD being around for too much longer...not that it every really "took off."

Mgottlieb is right, most of your questions have been answered. IMO, the above responses are dead on. The HDCD product IS clearly a step up from 16-bit redbook.

The only point worthy of further consideration or awareness is a sense of where HDCD may be going in the future, with all of the format wars now going on. T_bone is correct, the HDCD format was developed by Pacific Microsonics. However, Pacific Microsonics was purchased........by Microsoft. It seems reasonable to think that we will hear more about HDCD from their obviously successful marketing machine.

Almost all of your questions seem to have been answered except, maybe, which SACD machines are HDCD-equipped when in their CD playback mode. The Sony's are not but the Classe Omega is, and I understand that the Lindemann D-680 is also.

HDCD discs sound wonderful, in my opinion. I use an Arcam FMJ-CD23, which is HDCD ready. A red indicator light comes on when a HDCD disc is loaded into player. I'm surprised how many CD's are encoded with the HDCD process without any codes or notification on the jewel box info or on the disc itself. Arcam's lower priced model has HDCD playback also. I wish there would be more publicity and consumer awareness about the HDCD process. SACD may not be the format to go to if HDCD is so good. Check out any Reference Recording's HDCD discs. They are great. Keb Mo, k.d Lang and Patricia Barber discs are sometimes HDCD availible also.

HDCD discs should be compatible with all players. If a player is equipped with an HDCD digital filter all the better. HDCD is a process whereby recordings are laid down in 20bit vs 16. It's still PCM.
SACD uses DSD (Direct Stream Digital)to capture the waveform in an unfiltered 1-bit 64x over-sampled form.

So 2 different animals. PCM with a lot of filtering vs SACD with virtually none.

The easy answer to your first question is "No". HDCD is a proprietary encoding process (license owned by Pacific Microsonics) and HDCDs, while playable on regular CD players, sound better on HDCD-enabled CD players - HDCD-encoding is not decodable by conventional CD players. The more complicated answer may be "Yes and No." There exist, apparently, HDCD-decoding amplifiers, but I do not know how they work (I have been under the impression that HDCD is essentially a DAC filtering algorithm). If they do exist, theoretically one would not need both an HDCD-decoding CD player and an HDCD amplifier/receiver.

Sony SACD players do not, to my knowledge (I own one), have HDCD-decoding capability.

I believe that any CD/DVD player is compatible with HDCD discs in that they will play them with 16 bit resolution, but you need an appropriate HDCD chip set to get the 20 bit equivalent resolution and other benefits HDCD's are capable of. Considering the fact that there are over 6000 titles with HDCD decoding which probably outnumbers all other "high resolution" digital formats combined, your question is an excellent one. I don't believe any Sony players have the HDCD chip set. There will be an HDCD logo on the player if it is capable of fully appreciating the benefits of HDCD. The biggest differences between HDCD and SACD is that there are many more HDCD titles currently available are usually less expensive and that HDCD can be played on any CD/DVD machine, while SACD's should be capable of considerably better sound than HDCD's, they require specific machines to play single layer discs, dual layer discs should be compatible with all machines and the number of titles is of course limited and complicated by the fact that there are in fact two variteies, one of which as previously described requires specific machines to decode and while growing there are less titles and those titles can be more expensive that standard CD's or HDCD's.