robertbrown - i disagree with you on a few things. the model 1's are an excellent speaker with tight bass in the right room. even the arros (which i also owned) have amazing bass for the 4" woofer. as for the mani's, they are not missing anything. i even asked vince from totem if i should move up to the winds and he told me to stay with the mani's. when i met him at a show and listened to the winds, he was right. for a mix of ht and audio, the winds would be my choice, but for audio, i'll stay with the mani's.
since you state that some of these speakers are lousy, (which the hawks are not), and the mani's are missing something, i would have to guess that these issues are from something else besides the speakers. either your room, speaker positioning, or front end electronics. i have never heard of anybody indicating that totem speakers are lousy.