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Have speakers really improved within the last 20 years??

Question:

  • If there is one measurement that would prove that speakers have indeed got better over the last 20 years, what would it be? 

I dont just want one example of a speaker from today that has a better measurement than another speaker from 20 years ago because that could just be a coincidence. I want to see IRREFUTABLE PROOF that most speakers today have a measured performance in at least one area that is better than most speakers 20 years ago.

When I look at a typical bookshelf speaker from 20 years ago versus one from today i see little difference. All i see is a wooden box, typically mdf with a pair of drivers in 'em. There would be a small crossover circuit inside and a bit of foam inside the box and that would be the end of the story. I would like to believe that speakers have gotten better but I see no reason to believe it. All I see is that speakers may have gotten brighter and brighter with time to dupe us into thinking we are hearing more detail. 

This challenge is open to any audiophile or speaker designer reading this.
kenjit
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dekay
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Kenjit:

And then, and then, and then...

Your survey pick was???

DeKay
kenjit OP
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 Since you’re the one in disbelief, show us that it’s not true.
I have the right to believe that speakers have not improved unless proven otherwise. Speakers do not improve by themselves without human intervention. There is no proof required to understand that. Its obviously true.

Speaker designers aspire to improve the sound quality over time. Most audiophiles like you believe this is happening. Proof that this is really happening is required. That is the difference you dont seem to understand.

I have set you a challenge. You cannot turn the tables on me. You either give up or you give me proof. This is non negotiable.

There are two parts to the challenge. You would need to show that

1.there is a measurement that has improved over the years

2. that this measurement proves that sound quality has improved.
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poko
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Question:

  • If there is one post that would prove that Kenjit has indeed got better over the last 1000 posts, what would it be?

I dont just want one example of a post from today that has a better content than another post from years ago because that could just be a coincidence. I want to see IRREFUTABLE PROOF that most posts today have an idea in at least one area that is better than most posts 2 years ago.

When I look at a typical post from 2 years ago versus one from today i see little difference. All i see is repetition, typically daft with self aggrandizing in ’em. There would be a small idea inside and a bit of rhetoric inside the post and that would be the end of the story. I would like to believe that posts have gotten better but I see no reason to believe it. All I see is that posts may have gotten simpler and simpler with time to dupe us into thinking we are reading something different.

This challenge is open to any audiophile or speaker designer reading this.
kenjit OP
1,771 posts
 

Better is in the eyes/ears of the beholder.

That is not true. A speaker has a job to do. Its job is to reproduce the signal going into it as perfectly as possible. If you put a 50hz sine wave into a speaker and it produces a 60hz and 70hz sine wave then the speaker is BAD and this has nothing to do with what your opinion of it might be.

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