Have speakers really improved within the last 20 years??


Question:

  • If there is one measurement that would prove that speakers have indeed got better over the last 20 years, what would it be? 

I dont just want one example of a speaker from today that has a better measurement than another speaker from 20 years ago because that could just be a coincidence. I want to see IRREFUTABLE PROOF that most speakers today have a measured performance in at least one area that is better than most speakers 20 years ago.

When I look at a typical bookshelf speaker from 20 years ago versus one from today i see little difference. All i see is a wooden box, typically mdf with a pair of drivers in 'em. There would be a small crossover circuit inside and a bit of foam inside the box and that would be the end of the story. I would like to believe that speakers have gotten better but I see no reason to believe it. All I see is that speakers may have gotten brighter and brighter with time to dupe us into thinking we are hearing more detail. 

This challenge is open to any audiophile or speaker designer reading this.
kenjit

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They are better because I say so, and since I am the only measurement and judgement that matters, this case is closed. Lol. Mapman, so true. Just like many of us here, well past our prime. 
Kenjit, we already know that they’ve improved. My verdict on the subject has been given. Since you’re the one in disbelief, show us that it’s not true. I know I have much more valuable things I can do with my time than to prove something to someone who wouldn’t believe it even if I did. The facts would become disputed as facts. That has been made very clear based on the large amount of data we have from previous threads and posts. Most audiophiles like spending time discussing what’s to like or dislike about products that hold interest to them, not try to dispel the validity of all products in general. This seems more like someone who dislikes the audiophile hobby in general. 
Kenjit, why are you continuing this question. I gave the proof and case is closed. Now here’s the next question, it’s on you to provide irrefutable proof that new speakers have not improved. I give you permission to carry on the proper research needed to answer this burning question that at least one person here is dying to know. 
Poko and reven, you’ve got it right. The early posts might have had some zing with all the pomp of being the self designated and worlds only true expert and judge of everything audiophile. Now it’s just boring repetition of the same ideas and subjects that by their nature cannot be determined, or as the self proclaimed judge, he disputes any facts as non factual. That’s why I have now proclaimed myself as the one true expert and judge, he let his credentials lapse. Lol. Though out of kindness I have deemed that he may still have complete control and and final say in his own home. ( which of course is exactly the same level of power we each have, just don’t tell him, I like him believing I’ve made a special consideration for him)